Post by: Windrider on July 11, 2011, 11:27:43 PM
2012 Fan Art Calendar Guidelines
The theme for the 2012 Elfquest Fan Art Calendar is: Pin-ups
Submissions for the 2012 Calendar Contest are being accepted:
July 15th through November 30th, 2011
This turned into a three year project. We are coming into the finish line, though, and the last entries for 2014 must be in by the weekend of Feb 4/5, 2012.
THEME
This will be a continuation of the Pin-up Calendar that Wendy did in 1998, only drawing from the vast cast of characters that Wendy didn't use. But we are not going to stop there…oh, no. This is going to be a weekly planner calendar. You heard right, 53 images are needed from you artists!
Entries should reflect the Pin-ups idea from Wendy's original calendar. Each image should consist of one character shown three times. Approximately 1/2 the image should be a sexy, scantily clad, full-length view of the character. Approximately 1/4 should be a large portrait (also often sexy), and the last 1/4 or so should be an "action" pose of the character in their usual costume.
Unlike Wendy's Pin-ups, your entries don't all have to have exactly the same composition. The full-length sexy pose may be either vertical (as Wendy did) or horizontal (reclining) or even diagonal (if you can get that to work). The portrait and action pose may be either top or bottom or on the right or left side.
In order to give the calendar a unified feel, we ask that you have white margins on the art, as Wendy did. Some background and/or graphics elements are allowed, but keep them in the spirit of the original
If you haven't seen the original, Richard has posted it here:
http://www.elfquest.com/social/index.php?do=/EQArtGallery/photo/elfquest-1998-calendar/ (http://www.elfquest.com/social/index.php?do=/EQArtGallery/photo/elfquest-1998-calendar/)
CONTENT
Because we are asking artists to contribute so much art this year, we are easing up on the usual rule that your art must be created specifically for the calendar and not ever posted before. If you have a previously-seen sketch that would work as an element in your Pin-up, please feel free to re-use it. However, it must be your previously-seen sketch.
Entries must not be available for the general public to view online until the okay is given for general sharing.
Canon Elfquest characters (of any race) only. No what-if characters (i.e., Worldpool). Because this is a Pin-up calendar, only adult characters, please. PG-13 or under.
You must be assigned your characters! See the post under this one for information on submitting your list of character choices and being assigned characters from it.
FORMAT
All entries should be in full color.
Size: 8.5" x 8.5" (pictures must be a square)
Resolution: 2550 x 2550 pixels (8.5" x 8.5" at 300dpi)
File format: JPEG format only
HOW TO SUBMIT
Because of the sheer amount of art needed for this calendar, it is unlikely that it will actually be a contest that will need judging (so, it is likely that everyone is in!) However, the calendar entries will be viewed by the formatting team at Elfquest Fan Art http://www.elfquestfanart.net (http://www.elfquestfanart.net) and displayed there once the calendar is published. However, due to size constraints at the site, you will still have to email your full-sized entry to Windrider. Please PM Windrider at either the EQ Social Network or at EQ Fan Art when you have an entry ready to be submitted. Note: My email where you will send your entries also appears on my profile here.
Artists may submit an unlimited number of entries! However, you only get three characters to start with. Once you have submitted those, you may choose more from the "unclaimed" list below.
Entries must be received by midnight PST, November 30th, 2011.
Include the following:
- Title (Required): Title of your submission (character's name)
- Artist Credits (Required): Will be included on the calendar. Your real name or preferred artist's credit name.
- Preferred Week (Optional): What week you would like your entry to be featured on (no guarantees, though).
- Email (Required)
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CREDIT
The artist credit and the email listed with your entry will used for credits.
The Warp Graphics, Inc. copyright will be included for you.
PUBLISHING
The finished calendar will be available for download at elfquest.com and at elfquestfanart.net. In addition, we will try to figure out some way to have this published as a real weekly planner - won't be at CafePress, though, since they don't have that option.
QUESTIONS
Any questions about the calendar may be asked and answered on this thread or PM Windrider.
If you don't know what this is all about, check out the current and past Fan Art Calendars here: http://www.elfquestfanart.com/index.php?action=fanartcalendar;month=0;year=2011 (http://www.elfquestfanart.com/index.php?action=fanartcalendar;month=0;year=2011)
Post by: Windrider on July 11, 2011, 11:29:03 PM
1. Check the list below for which characters are not yet claimed or are only claimed once. Currently, each character may be claimed two times. Check reply #3 below for an easier way to find unclaimed characters!
2. PM Windrider with a list of those characters you would like to draw for the Pin-ups. You can pick up to three.
3. Windrider will confirm by PM that you are assigned those characters.
4. Once you have submitted your entries for those characters, you can check the list again for another you may like to draw (and so on).
5. If a character isn't working out for you and you'd like to choose a different one, please PM Windrider so that character can be made available again.
Note that this list is not a complete list of every EQ character. Lesser known characters are welcome as long as they are canon and not some anonymous Villager or Tribesman, and will be added to the list if you pick them. Unnamed characters are also fine, as long as they are distinct and appear as more than background characters (example: the Jackwolfriders).
Note that many characters have been a part of the story for so long that they have different looks for different ages. So the list includes the same character from "different eras." Artists can include more versions if it can be made clear that they are younger/older.
Character List for the Fan Calendar:
Wolfriders
Bearclaw
- young - Eregyrn 2013
- chief - Celticgriffin 2014
Chitter (Final Quest young adult) - Treefox 2012
Clearbrook
- long braid, Original Quest - Midnight 2013
- short hair, SaBM - Kiwi 2014
- Searcher - Tavie 2013 bonus art
- Shards - Firestorm 2012
Cutter
- Original Quest - Treefox 2014
- punk SaBM Carmaleetah bonus art 2014
- KotBW - Kiwi 2012
- Searcher/Discovery - Silentleaf 2013
- Sun Village Jackwolfrider
- Searcher/Discovery - Windrider, colored by Foxeye 2014
- Original Quest - Anna Phoenix 2013
- SaBM - Kvitulven 2012 bonus art
- Wild Hunt - Bukittyan 2012
- Hidden Years "fringe" costume - CeruleanBlue 2014
- Hidden Years - Foxeye 2012
- Early Wild Hunt - Firestorm 2013
- Wild Hunt, leggings/fur trim top - Saree 2012 bonus art
Freefoot - Jankit 2013
Foxfur - Anna Phoenix 2014
Goodtree - Aurianfae 2013
Greywolf - Tevokkia 2012
Icetooth - Silentleaf 2014 bonus art
Joyleaf - Kitt 2012
Longbranch - stratosmacca 2014
Mantricker - Eregyrn 2012
Mender
- Sun Village - Windbourne 2013 bonus art
- Wild Hunt - Kiwi 2012
- Recognition - Mirror 2013
- Original Quest - Anna Phoenix 2012
- SaBM - Mist-eyes 2013
- Hidden Years "Redwing Blackbird" - Windbourne 2014
- Searcher - Carmaleetah bonus art 2014
- Sun Village dress, w/braids - Bonita 2012
- Searcher - Wolfrider 2012 bonus art
- young adult/Wolfrider! - Treefox 2014
- Original Quest Firestorm 2014
- Dreamtime/Hidden Years - Wolfrider 2012
- Searcher/Discovery - Matsurin 2013
Pike
- Original Quest - Afke 2013
- KotBW hoodie - Jankit 2012
- Wild Hunt - Jankit 2014
Prey-Pacer - CeruleanBlue 2013
Rahnee - RVardys 2012
Rain
- Treefox 2013
- Finnguala 2014
- Fire and Flight - Larialoyla 2012
- Sun Village - Goldelf DONE
- Original Quest - Elea 2013
- SaBM - Goldelf DONE
- Dreamtime/Hidden Years, Searcher - Eregyrn DONE
- Silentleaf 2013
- Mirror 2014
- SaBM - Wildfire 2013
- Recognition - LaMara 2012
Skyfire
- Matsurin 2012
- Tamarien 2014
- Young, Starrise/Starfall - Windbourne 2013
- SaBM - Yavia 2014
- Master of the Palace era - Windrider 2012
- Original Quest - Midnight 2012
- Dreamtime/Hidden Years - Mist-eyes 2014
- Searcher/Discovery - EkaGo 2013
Tanner - Mirror 2013
Timmorn - Celticgriffin 2014
Treestump
- Dreamtime - Silentleaf 2012
- Searcher - Czarine 2013
Two-Spear - Firestorm 2013
Tyleet
- poncho - Emberra bonus art 2014
- Wild Hunt - Mirror 2012
- Recognition - Branchscamper 2014
- BoTC, off one shoulder outfit - Mirror 2014
- Two-Spear #1, 2, sash outfit - Tevokkia 2013
Woodlock - Eregyrn 2014
Sunfolk
Ahdri
- Sun Village - Kittensoft 2014
- Searcher, "wolfrider-ish" - Mirror 2012
Bowki - Amberfox bonus art 2014
Dodia - Branchscamper 2013
Kimo - Maggie 2012
Leetah
- Sun Village - Kitt 2014
- SaBM/KotBW - Mist-eyes 2012
- Dreamtime - Mirror 2013
- Full Circle/Searcher/Discovery - Maggie 2014
- Final Quest - Goldelf 2012 bonus art
Minyah - Maggie 2013 bonus art, Startear bonus art
Rayek
- Original Quest
- SaBM - Silentleaf 2012
- KotBW/Shards - Jarf 2014
- Rogue's Curse - Yavia DONE
Savah - Windrider 2014
Shenshen - Afke 2012
Shushen - Treefox 2013 bonus art
Sun Toucher - Treefox 2013
Toorah - Treefox 2013 bonus art
Vurdah - Spaceship 2012
Windstone - Foxeye 2013
Yurek - Valkyrie bonus art 2014
Zhantee - Bukittyan 2014
Gliders
Aroree
- Chosen Eight - Treefox 2012
- Shards - Carmaleetah 2012 bonus art
Door (male) - Berit DONE
Tyldak - Joyrider 2012
Voll - Yavia 2013
Winnowill
- Elea 2012
- Joselle 2013
- Catwalk 2014
Go-Backs
Chot
- Go-back furs - Icebird 2014
- Forevergreen loincloth - Bukittyan 2013
- grey, fur-trimmed - Elea 2013
- Quest's End battle armor - Kittensoft 2012
- Dreamtime/Shards outfit - Finnguala 2013
- Wild Hunt - Icebird 2012
Roff - Berit 2014
Skot
- SaBM - Maggie 2013
- Dreamtime/Shards long ponytail - Jankit 2014
Urda - Snowburn 2013 bonus art
Vaya - Treefox 2013
Venka
- KotBW teen - Icebird 2013
- regular, end of KotBW/Shards costume - Mirror 2012
Yif - Berit 2013
Yun - CeruleanBlue 2012
Zey - Berit 2012 bonus art
Wavedancers
Brill - Bukittyan 2012
Darshek - Valkyrie 2014
Foam - Snowburn 2013
Haze and Farbright - Amberfox bonus art 2014
Krill - Maggie 2014
Kroosh - Amberfox 2014
Longfin - Branchscamper 2012
Moonmirror - Amberfox 2013
No-Ripple - Larialoyla 2013
Puffer - Silentleaf 2013 bonus art
Redcrest - Silentleaf 2013 bonus art
Reef - Emberra 2012 bonus art
Salt - Silentleaf bonus art 2014
Sandsparkle - Valkyrie 2012
Skimback - Jarf 2013
Snakeskin - Valkyrie 2014
Spine
- Snowburn 2012
- Maggie 2013
Strand - Amberfox 2014
Surge - Paper Ghost 2013 bonus art
Tumble - Silentleaf 2013 bonus art
Trolls
Drub - Afke 2014
Flam - Celticgriffin 2013
Oddbit - Dreamweaver 2014
Picknose - Afke 2012
Trinket - Afke 2013
Humans
Adar - Maggie 2014
Ikopek (Bee) - Valkyrie bonus art 2014
Khorbasi - Mist-eyes 2014
Lehrigen - Celticgriffin 2012
Little Patch - Finnguala 2012
Nonna - Maggie 2014
Olbar - Afke 2013
Selah - - Maggie 2013 bonus art
Shuna - Joyrider 2013
High Ones
Adya - Rosalie bonus art 2014
Aerth - Kiwi 2013
Deir - Rosalie 2013 bonus art
Gibra
- Amberfox 2013 bonus art
- Rosalie 2013
Kalil - Amberfox 2014
Kaslen - Joselle 2012
Sefra - Treefox 2014
Timmain - EkaGo 2014
Others
Ekuar - Maggie 2012
Jink
- blue & black early outfit - Wildfire 2014
- human form, "Neverending" costume - Jeedai/Nilla 2012
Petalwing - Windrider bonus art 2014
Rellah - Silentleaf 2013 bonus art
Teir - Foxeye 2012
Two-Edge - EkaGo 2012
Zarhan Fastfire
- Tevokkia 2014
- CeruleanBlue 2012
Post by: Treefox on July 11, 2011, 11:43:33 PM
Just one question: should we submit our character here openly or sould be PM it to you?
Post by: Windrider on July 12, 2011, 12:08:50 AM
Bonus Art 2014: ALL DONE!
Post by: Treefox on July 12, 2011, 02:11:03 AM
Still, too bad that Vaya is already gone.
Post by: Windrider on July 12, 2011, 07:41:22 AM
Quote from: Treefox
Still, too bad that Vaya is already gone.
You could post here that you really want to draw her and maybe the artist who picked her would be willing to pick a different character so you could claim her.
This list is going to be in constant flux. Artists are likely to give up characters if they find they don't have time to do their whole list, or if the sketches aren't working out.
Post by: Treefox on July 12, 2011, 07:44:04 AM
Post by: Foxeye on July 12, 2011, 10:23:31 AM
Post by: Treefox on July 12, 2011, 11:16:26 AM
Post by: Windrider on July 12, 2011, 12:06:23 PM
Another question: what does PG 13 allow? Showing breasts or part of breasts, or no breasts at all? I notice that Wendy has skilfully hidden any nipples. Should be keep it the same way?
What Wendy has done in the comics and calendars is always a good guide for what is acceptable (I should say her EQ comics, because Masque is definitely not PG-13! LOL). Wendy usually shows breasts but hides nipples on female characters, unless the character is an elf version of A-cup like Aroree (i.e. the KotBW bathing scene). Note that on the cover of Wendy's calendar it has the subtitle of "a twelvemonth of tasteful pin-ups."
Post by: Kitt on July 12, 2011, 07:38:21 PM
Post by: Treefox on July 12, 2011, 11:54:24 PM
Post by: Kitt on July 13, 2011, 05:06:42 AM
Go Kitt! I have also actually started sketching and man, am I out of practice. Is still tons of fun, though!
*highfives* You can do it, Tree! You are an incredible artist! I know it'll all come back to you in no time at all! :)
Post by: Saree on July 13, 2011, 09:15:05 AM
But I cannot decide!!! So many to choose from.... :-\
Post by: Windrider on July 13, 2011, 10:23:53 AM
Another comment I'd like to make: Just because Pin-ups are really nothing more than figure studies, don't just whip them out. Give it some thought and make them as rich and detailed as you would a usual ambitious calendar entry, even though they are simpler. Remember that a character's pose in a figure study can speak volumes about that character's personality. Even though Pin-ups are supposed to be "sexy" - there are all kinds of sexy. Shy, sweet, hot, devious, brooding... etc. Expressions should be in keeping with that character's personality, not just generically sexy.
Post by: Treefox on July 13, 2011, 10:55:55 AM
Post by: Razzle on July 13, 2011, 01:56:35 PM
Post by: Lysana on July 13, 2011, 05:44:26 PM
When you say 'lesser-known characters' are allowed, does the character have to have a name in canon? Is a specific character who is known but whose name WARP never gave, allowed for this calendar?
I can't wait, this seems awesome!
-Lysana
Post by: Wildfire on July 14, 2011, 10:29:19 AM
Post by: Foxeye on July 14, 2011, 01:20:45 PM
Hi! A quick question from a to-date-invisible person! :)
When you say 'lesser-known characters' are allowed, does the character have to have a name in canon? Is a specific character who is known but whose name WARP never gave, allowed for this calendar?
I can't wait, this seems awesome!
-Lysana
Welcome Lurker-no-more. :)
Windrider may come back and disagree with me on this, but my understanding is that if the character is recognizable, then the lack of a name is somewhat trivial. Several go-backs and jackwolf riders fall under this category. If you are still in doubt, Windrider can of course confirm when you PM her who you have in mind. :)
Post by: Saree on July 14, 2011, 10:39:54 PM
Do any comics exist whith them older than that?
Or do we get the possibility here to draw them how they might look like as adults?
Post by: Afke on July 15, 2011, 03:00:04 AM
Try drawing all elements seperately. So you draw the portrait, and the pin-up, and the clothed figure apart from each other -- then scan them and put them together in Photoshop or some other image editor. You can keep shuffling the elements and resize them until they fit right.
Then depending on your coloring method you can keep working digitally or print it out and use traditional materials.
It'll still be very useful to make composition sketches up front to make some sort of plan before you start the actual drawings, but for those not used to it I hope this tip will help you.
Post by: Razzle on July 15, 2011, 04:17:50 AM
Post by: Foxeye on July 15, 2011, 08:58:47 AM
Um, I was wondering about Sust and Pool... aren`t they too young? I only know them as 12-13 years old (or younger?) in the Wild Hunt.
Do any comics exist whith them older than that?
Or do we get the possibility here to draw them how they might look like as adults?
We saw them as adults in Mender's Tale and Recognition. :) Both of those should be in the Digital Comics at elfquest.com
Post by: Wildfire on July 15, 2011, 10:24:23 AM
Post by: Treefox on July 15, 2011, 01:21:42 PM
Wildfire, are you not going to join the calendar then? Would be too bad...
afke, I also think your tip is good. I am actually doing it exactly the way you described. Also helps me with not having to draw such a tiny full figure shot.
Post by: Wildfire on July 15, 2011, 01:59:17 PM
Ah, I'm joining alright. I've got dibs on two (hopefully three) characters and I'm already working on one of them xD Would you perhaps care to do some critique along the way again?
Post by: Windrider on July 15, 2011, 02:34:51 PM
We have officially exceeded the 53 assigned characters necessary for a weekly calendar. Whether this actually transfers into more than 53 submitted entries remains to be seen. ;) If it does, then that means that this will indeed be a contest and we'll have to have the usual judging panel decide who gets in (Foxeye, Richard, and I are the usual judging panel).
There are still lots of characters unclaimed. Some hunky male Wolfriders, lots of lovely Sun Villagers, and almost all the Wavedancers!
Oh, the question of unnamed characters. Hmm.... I was planning to have the character's name be a graphic element, but I guess we can think up something to call various characters, like "Dart's Jackwolfrider Lieutenant" or "Go-Back #6" LOL
Post by: Foxeye on July 15, 2011, 03:16:05 PM
Use my jerelyn at junglefire dot com address.
Post by: Faerydae on July 15, 2011, 09:23:30 PM
Post by: Foxeye on July 15, 2011, 09:31:12 PM
(http://i569.photobucket.com/albums/ss132/MadameMasque/PensiveLeetah.jpg)
Presumably ALL the characters will have "final quest" versions of themselves with new outfits. Chitter will be especially interesting to see! ;D
Post by: Faerydae on July 15, 2011, 10:30:41 PM
Post by: Foxeye on July 15, 2011, 11:57:34 PM
The Final Quest versions of characters are a bit of a long shot, but if it *does* start to go live this fall, I imagine that some people would be enthusiastic about drawing the new "versions" of characters. :)
Course, in this teaser she's wearing yet another outfit, soooo..well, it's Leetah. She's a clothes-horse. ^_^
(http://i569.photobucket.com/albums/ss132/MadameMasque/FinalQuestterror.jpg)
Post by: Elea on July 16, 2011, 08:39:25 AM
Post by: Windrider on July 16, 2011, 09:57:45 AM
The character list is filling up fast. Remember that not all the characters are on the list. You can read through Blood of Ten Chiefs, Wavedancers, Future Quest, etc to find lesser known characters.
Remember that the characters on the list are not really "taken" until there is a DONE by their name! Around September 1st, I will be contacting artists who have not yet submitted any entries and ask how they are coming along. At that time, there may be an influx of newly unclaimed characters because of Real Life interfering with artists getting their characters drawn.
Post by: jaRf on July 16, 2011, 10:33:20 AM
Just sad that Venka is already in the old calendar. I mean, why leave them out?
But anyway, I hope we get to see all entries. And I see that a lot are already taken. Heh. Seems people like the idea.
Wow, Ekuar is already taken. Now that might be an interesting outcome.
Few left. Now I just needed practise and time. :/
Damn even if decided to try all characters would be taken. The only really free area is WaveDancers probably since not so many people had access to it. Even the High Ones that just had appearance in one of the HYs are taken. Wow, this is going fast and I guess people really love the theme. :)
Post by: Elea on July 16, 2011, 03:55:48 PM
We, in Russia, came out only "The Original Quest" (number 1-5). Therefore, we only know the story, as Cutter met Leetah. All the other stories we know, because we have an irregular fan-interpreters, who work round the clock. They (translators) so far translated only "Siege at Blue Mountain", so ... I think that those who will draw this year because of our (I, EkaGO, Anna Phoenix, and possibly, Lina LaPina, David Kristens) - may face a problem: we may not be accurate in the detail of the characters.
Well, we will collect "Operational Headquarters" and think of something. On the other hand, more importantly, an opportunity to participate in the creation of the calendar. Thank you for giving us this opportunity to join the world ElfQuest.
Post by: Multimedea on July 16, 2011, 04:44:07 PM
Post by: Elea on July 16, 2011, 05:26:31 PM
I am think, that Russian cope with the task. We any times do the "impossible" ))))). It's not a competition "who will make the picture better, cool, faster"? Personally, I just enjoy drawing on ElfQuest. Tell me: "Lea, draw us rocks and trees!" and I'll paint the stones and trees. I do not pretend to "pivot" characters (though they reveal much simpler), but when almost everyone is busy, once i am start to get lost: a choice to make ... Whom draw?! (<= that was sarcasm )))).
Post by: amee on July 17, 2011, 01:22:04 PM
I sent in my character requests via PM; two of them aren't on this list yet. Think outside the box and you'll likely find someone you love that nobody's thought of yet ... ;)
Post by: silentleaf on July 18, 2011, 03:17:53 PM
Post by: Treefox on July 19, 2011, 03:21:13 AM
My first entry is also coming along. I am facing more technical problems than artistical ones (okay also artistical ones). The sheet of paper I was coloring on just gave up and now I can only hope to fix it with Gimp.
Also, why do my final drawings never look as good as my sketches? ::)
Post by: amee on July 19, 2011, 03:28:57 AM
Post by: Windrider on July 19, 2011, 08:49:13 AM
So many artists want to participate that I am going to be opening up the characters that Wendy has already done. Mind you, I wouldn't want to do them - because who wants to be compared with Wendy!? (Anyway, that was the original thinking for excluding them). But some of you might want to put your own twist on those characters.
So... if anyone wants one of the characters on Wendy's list, PM me. If you have already picked three characters, you have to give up one of them in order to claim a new one.
Also, recheck the list. So many characters have been in EQ a long time and have undergone many changes - so I've put other versions of those characters as possible choices
That should put more character choices back on the table!
Post by: Foxeye on July 19, 2011, 09:37:23 AM
Almost ready to start coloring parts of one of mine, but of course I keep bouncing between pieces. This is so much fun. ^_^
Post by: Treefox on July 19, 2011, 10:24:05 AM
Post by: silentleaf on July 19, 2011, 11:12:47 AM
Post by: silentleaf on July 19, 2011, 11:33:31 AM
Post by: Foxeye on July 19, 2011, 11:36:59 AM
Faerydae, there is a decent pic on Wendy's Facebook page of banner with Leetah in color. check it out.
Link?! I must be looking at the wrong facebook page (or else my lack of a facebook account is biting me in the rump).
Edit: Och, nm, found it.
(http://i569.photobucket.com/albums/ss132/MadameMasque/Trio2010.jpg)
Post by: Wildfire on July 19, 2011, 01:26:34 PM
(If the "Some of you guys are being forced into choosing characters even I don't know" thing applies to my final character as well, then no worries, I'll be glad to draw her! If you already put her on the list then nevermind, I must be going blind :P
EDIT: Actually, nevermind that. I'll send you a note in a few minutes)
Post by: silentleaf on July 19, 2011, 02:32:39 PM
Post by: Saree on July 20, 2011, 04:03:03 AM
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Teir (olive-skinned, loose-haired Final Quest)
Huh? Is there a pic of him somewhere avaiable? Or do you mean how he looked on the calendar pic with Ember? Don`t know which year it was. The one with the couples (or threesomes).
Post by: Foxeye on July 20, 2011, 08:27:19 AM
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/261729_229018070453168_100000349294445_737314_5837699_n.jpg)
Post by: Treefox on July 20, 2011, 11:02:20 AM
Post by: silentleaf on July 20, 2011, 11:47:11 AM
Post by: branchscamper on July 20, 2011, 12:15:38 PM
@Treefox - unfortunately I've had to avoid cons due to financial stress. Some day...
Post by: Foxeye on July 21, 2011, 12:00:28 AM
This is like candy for artists. ^_^
*hums "sexy back" to herself*
And no, no comic con for me. :(
Post by: Eregyrn on July 21, 2011, 08:17:33 AM
Yeah, it's the Calendar Teir, as well as the new picture that Wendy shared from Final Quest (which hopefully we'll see more of after this weekend's presentation at Comic Con *little jig*).
The pic of Teir looks great! (Although... hey, look, I am a big proponent of "people should draw guys' nipples", but man... those are a little scary.)
I'm a little discouraged, though, that WaRP appear to have abandoned EQ.com or the SoC in favor of FaceBook. :( (or, to properly express how I feel, >:( ). I mean, both the Moonshade picture and the Teir picture were posted on FB, not on the Scroll at all... until other Scroll posters happened to mention it.
Would it really kill WaRP to post something to FB and then ALSO post it in the appropriate thread on the Scroll? Why are people on the Scroll acting like it's not okay to repost the artwork in a thread there? (There was hesitation over posting the Moonshade piece, and I'm not sure the Teir piece was ever actually posted there, except as a link.)
The same goes for whatever comes out of SDCC. Is it really too much to ask that images, possible movies, or con reports be mirrored on the Scroll or somewhere easily findable on EQ.com, rather than just on FaceBook? It leaves those of us who don't use FB feeling like we don't matter.
Post by: Treefox on July 21, 2011, 01:09:54 PM
Concerning WaRP's investment in the SoC I must agree. I'm on Facebook only to keep contact with my oldest friend, but otherwise I'm really not active there nor am I interested to become active. So I miss seeing the latest stuff on the Scroll or at least the homepage.
But back to the good stuff: I finished all three poses of my first one! Now I have to invest two more weeks to put them together and clean them up. ;)
Post by: Multimedea on July 21, 2011, 01:41:02 PM
Maybe he was really excited to see Ember? :o ;D
Post by: Saree on July 22, 2011, 12:14:59 AM
The pic of Teir looks great! (Although... hey, look, I am a big proponent of "people should draw guys' nipples", but man... those are a little scary.)Agree!
Post by: Vaeri on July 22, 2011, 05:47:03 AM
Post by: Wildfire on July 22, 2011, 06:03:51 AM
ohhhh i was so excited to maybe put something in the calendar this year! but my anatomy is so horrible and i'd hate to take a character that someone else might want and could draw better!!T_T maybe next year...Foxeye offered drawovers and critique, so give it a try! The calendar is for everyone, not only a select few ;)
Post by: Vaeri on July 22, 2011, 04:48:57 PM
Foxeye offered drawovers and critique, so give it a try! The calendar is for everyone, not only a select few ;)
well...if that's the case....i guess why not. though my anatomy is still horrible...XD i'll have a look-see at whats left and take a pick or two
Post by: Faerydae on July 22, 2011, 07:00:05 PM
Too bad too. It's clunky, it NEVER ported over correctly, there are STILL broken pieces all over the place, the galleries suck and don't integrate well with the forums, and it's just sad. I hate going there now, it hurts the web designer and coder in me to see that shoddy workmanship.
It will never behave the way that I think they would have liked.
Post by: Foxeye on July 22, 2011, 10:04:54 PM
...too...many...elves. *faceplant*
I have enough discarded poses to probably create pinups for 5 other characters...sheesh. Some poses were really hard to discard, and some which made me wonder what the heck I was thinking. One young lady just went through 10 different action poses until I settled on one, though at least her sexypose was the right one the first time I tried. Another has gone through 4-5 poses for each aspect. Gnuh.
Just one last action pose to work out, and I am DONE with the concept/sketch phase.
Post by: Eregyrn on July 23, 2011, 05:02:22 AM
Post by: Afke on July 24, 2011, 03:04:22 AM
Some characters just make a pose pop up in my head, trick is to get it on paper.
I'm using various images to get it to look right, both in the sense of character likeness as anatomy.
Googling helps; for example I've used the legs of one picture that would fit right under the bust I drew earlier from scratch.
Also another tip; http://www.posemaniacs.com (http://www.posemaniacs.com)
If you're not sure about which muscle is supposed to go where, this site covers a lot of poses from many angles. Just click and turn to check from another side. I don't think the given poses will make good pin-ups, but some will help as action/clothed version.
Especially usefull is the handviewer ("Hands for drawing" in the menu); various hand poses you can view in the angle you need. Also the 2nd from the top is a foot you can turn and the 3rd is a head (best part of it all!), all the others are hands. Unfortunately they don't have a female version of the head (yet), but I'm sure it'll already be helpfull if you pick a different angle for the head than the usual portrait.
[Facebook] I mainly use it to keep in contact with family and friends I don't see that much (mostly because of distance). Didn't know the Pinis posted that much there. :o I've just added their official page, but I must say I'm not really interested in everything that is posted there. I'd rather just hear the highlights here. ;)
Post by: branchscamper on July 24, 2011, 09:06:49 AM
I've chosen my characters, now to force myself to sit down and get the time to draw. I have rough ideas on what I want them all to look like, it's just getting them down on paper at this point and hope they look okay XD
I'm really excited about it and I'm anxious to see everyone else's when this comes out ^_^
Post by: Startear on July 24, 2011, 12:58:51 PM
Post by: Wildfire on July 25, 2011, 11:37:34 AM
EDIT: Nevermind, I really ought to read through the thread before asking such questions. Hmm... Then I'll have to think of something that doesn't look too forced. I'll manage somehow xD
Post by: Foxeye on July 29, 2011, 10:08:57 AM
From Windrider:
UPDATE: Change of rules! EQ Fan Art has had a massive influx of new members due to this contest, more than we could have ever anticipated. In no way do Foxeye and I want to stifle anyone's desire to participate or produce as many entries as they wish. So... with nearly all the characters taken already and more artists wanting to join in each day, we are going to have to open up the list to each character being taken more than once. In order to get a good balance of lesser-known characters, every character (and character version) on the list may be claimed TWICE. If and when almost every character is claimed twice, we will open the list for a free-for-all (check back in the fall for that).
Post by: Windrider on July 29, 2011, 10:12:06 AM
I would like to suggest that if an artist wants to claim three characters, that they choose ONE who is a favorite, then another they really like but is less of a major/popular character, and finally one character who will be a challenge for them.
Post by: Eregyrn on July 29, 2011, 10:30:21 AM
The fact that there's so many people wanting to participate is fantastic!
Post by: Emberra on July 29, 2011, 10:43:36 AM
I've seen these calenders before and I've really wanted to enter.
So hopefully I get my chance.
Post by: Tevokkia on July 29, 2011, 03:28:08 PM
I don't usually do a lot of fanart, but just couldn't resist this project. I almost feel like I ought to take some time out to do some less strenuous EQ artwork first.
Post by: Treefox on July 29, 2011, 11:16:25 PM
Post by: Foxeye on July 29, 2011, 11:44:17 PM
Who knows...publish on demand outfits are getting more flexible every day. As long as WaRP is fully involved like they've been for past calendars via cafepress, and as long as money paid for the books is being channeled to a charity cause like Wolfpark, no one will feel abused or that their toes have been tread upon.
We'll worry about that later, I suppose. :)
(Oh, and welcome to the party Tevokkia, Emberra, and other lurking new peoples!)
Post by: silentleaf on July 30, 2011, 07:35:34 AM
Post by: jaRf on July 30, 2011, 07:53:06 AM
Post by: Kitt on July 30, 2011, 08:44:13 AM
I just noticed that someone picked Petalwing O.o I'm not sure I want to see a sexy Petalwing! xD
LOL! That...will be interesting :D
Post by: Windrider on July 30, 2011, 09:50:12 AM
Quote from: Foxeye
If we do manage to find some way to create a physical weekly calendar, I wish we could then put all the rest of the images at the back of the book. With so many artists participating the thing could almost be like a yearbook of the fan art community!
Well, as you know, the thought behind my original idea for this calendar was that it would be a non-contest. For once, everyone would be included and it would be this big out-pouring of fan art love for everyone of all skill levels. That was when the two of us thought it would be a stretch to get even 52 images. Boy were we ever wrong! ;D
I still kinda want this to be a non-contest, fan art love-fest. My thoughts are that if we can get 104 images (plus one for the cover), we'll make it a two-year calendar planner. That many images would seem like an impossible thing given how quiet both here and the Scroll have been this year, but you fans have proven us wrong already. This soon before the deadline, there are already artists submitting finished work and asking for more characters!
And I haven't even tapped into my email data base to try to contact fan artists from the early years of the calendar. Wouldn't THAT be fun to bring some of them back!
Quote from: Foxeye
Who knows...publish on demand outfits are getting more flexible every day. As long as WaRP is fully involved like they've been for past calendars via cafepress, and as long as money paid for the books is being channeled to a charity cause like Wolfpark, no one will feel abused or that their toes have been tread upon.
Okay, I'm throwing this out there: Everyone, help me find a place to publish this thing! I've been searching. CafePress doesn't have a weekly calendar with images (we could have it published as a spiral bound book, but it would be in black and white :P ). I'll drop Richard a message to get his input about permission for publishing outside of the CP Wolfrider's Shop if the proceeds go to Wolf Park. He might have ideas of other on-demand publishers. But I need help finding one, especially if we want to go the two-year route.
Quote from: Foxeye
(Oh, and welcome to the party Tevokkia, Emberra, and other lurking new peoples!)
Yes, indeed, welcome everyone! Please take the time to create a gallery for yourselves and share some art, and browse and comment on the wonderful art already here.
Post by: branchscamper on July 30, 2011, 10:46:00 PM
How is everyone else coming along???
Sorry I'm not much help with the publishing side. I mainly participate and buy these things. Last fan art book I participated for was a GIANT and was kinda a coffee book kind and cost me roughly $100 to purchase XD Totally worth it mind you, but doubt that is what you are looking for...
Post by: Foxeye on July 30, 2011, 11:37:08 PM
I am significantly amused that one of the x2 pieces is Suntoucher. Sexy older men represent!
I'm coming along good. One is still in the sketch phase, but the rest are in coloring, bout 80% done or so. I may slow those down at this stage just to make sure I make it nice and clean, since I tend to rush. Having a lot of fun with these for sure. :)
Post by: Tevokkia on July 31, 2011, 06:23:29 AM
Post by: Treefox on July 31, 2011, 11:15:01 AM
Post by: Saree on August 01, 2011, 09:13:11 AM
e.g. I could not find any colored pics of all the elves from Wild Hunt/Recognition except for Ember and Teir.
Post by: Foxeye on August 01, 2011, 09:33:11 AM
What if one could not find any colored version of an outfit?
e.g. I could not find any colored pics of all the elves from Wild Hunt/Recognition except for Ember and Teir.
I think you are allowed to use your own best guess on that.
That said, this alternative cover of Recognition may help where those particular outfits are concerned, for a few of the tribe:
(http://www.elfquestfanart.com/MGalleryItem.php?id=2856)
Post by: Saree on August 01, 2011, 10:07:21 AM
Post by: Windrider on August 01, 2011, 12:13:11 PM
Those who chose characters that go through many costume changes in the saga, please PM me with the costume you are drawing. Since we are allowing more than one artist to draw the same character, at least the costumes should be different to add more variety. Remember that isn't just for the "action" pose. Wendy often included at least some of the costume's elements in the sexy, scantily clad pose, too (okay, SOME were totally nude, but not all!)
Post by: Treefox on August 01, 2011, 12:57:21 PM
Is it just me or are the elves heads on that cover really big?
Post by: kittensoft on August 01, 2011, 08:29:49 PM
Post by: Jeb on August 02, 2011, 08:37:22 AM
Is it just me or are the elves heads on that cover really big?
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks so.
Post by: Eregyrn on August 02, 2011, 08:46:19 AM
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks so.
Yeah. The funny thing is, the elves in the background look a bit better.
But Ember and Teir are 4.5 heads tall. The usual Wendy wolfrider proportion is 5 heads tall. (Human proportions are usually 7.5 to 8 heads tall.) So if their heads were about 10% smaller, give or take, they'd look like they fit the figures better.
(I have that same problem all the time; I wind up with heads that are too big. It's something I correct after scanning the inks and fiddling with them in Photoshop, before printing them out for coloring.)
Post by: silentleaf on August 02, 2011, 10:15:21 AM
Post by: Tevokkia on August 02, 2011, 11:14:11 AM
yes they look like bobble head dolls =)
Exactly what I was thinking!
Post by: Treefox on August 02, 2011, 11:16:14 AM
But Eregyrn is right, I think. The background figures are better proportioned, speaking in EQ terms.
Okay, if I can get to work now, I will start on my next submission tomorrow!
Post by: Wildfire on August 03, 2011, 08:18:34 AM
I'd totally go for Vaya except I don't want to get my ass kicked xD
Post by: Treefox on August 03, 2011, 09:49:51 AM
Post by: Wildfire on August 03, 2011, 10:16:45 AM
Post by: branchscamper on August 03, 2011, 11:32:42 AM
As for my pictures...I'm working on one and only have the close up mostly done. I'm trying to think of the character and also be original when it comes to all of them. I'm probably over thinking XD
Post by: kittensoft on August 03, 2011, 07:08:30 PM
A quick question: How much "action" should be in the "action" shot, ie-would you prefer something really dynamic like running or fighting, or can it be a simple pose like standing & looking off into the distance or holding a flower?
Post by: Foxeye on August 03, 2011, 07:43:37 PM
Have the basic sketches for most of my poses done now :)
A quick question: How much "action" should be in the "action" shot, ie-would you prefer something really dynamic like running or fighting, or can it be a simple pose like standing & looking off into the distance or holding a flower?
Wendy herself had a range. Venka, for example, was just a standing pose. I think the most important thing is to be true to the character's personality. :)
Post by: Larialoyla on August 04, 2011, 02:53:20 AM
Quote:
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>But Ember and Teir are 4.5 heads tall. The usual Wendy wolfrider proportion is 5 heads tall. (Human proportions are usually 7.5 to 8 heads tall.) So if their heads were about 10% smaller, give or take, they'd look like they fit the figures better.
Post by: Eregyrn on August 04, 2011, 08:33:55 AM
Wolfriders 5 heads tall, humans 7.5-8... How about the rest of them (Gliders, Wavedancers, High Ones etc.)? I'm trying to work on my elf drawing skills, so this info would be very helpful to me :)
Quote:
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>But Ember and Teir are 4.5 heads tall. The usual Wendy wolfrider proportion is 5 heads tall. (Human proportions are usually 7.5 to 8 heads tall.) So if their heads were about 10% smaller, give or take, they'd look like they fit the figures better.
I don't recall that any of the info in the Gatherums addressed the proper proportions for Gliders/High Ones/etc. That's where I got the "wolfriders = 5 heads tall" info from -- Wendy did some figure guides for animators that broke down proportions, but they mainly applied to wolfriders and elves of related size (Sun Folk and Go-Backs, I guess). I suppose the idea was that since those are so short, they are the most difficult for other artists to figure out how to do?
It's also true that while Wendy provided these guidelines, I think she also isn't completely consistent with them. She's PRETTY consistent, but I think she also plays it by ear depending on the piece.
So -- a quick examination of a couple of pictures by her that have High Ones standing upright reveals a little variation:
* The picture of Savah and Yurek from the Lovemates calendar has both of them at approx. 8-heads-high proportion.
* Timmain on the Pin-Ups calendar is aprox. 7.5 heads high. (When measuring "heads", you also have to account for poofy hair. That is, try to figure out what the size of the skull is, not what size the head is when you add on poofy hair.)
Therefore, I think it's broadly safe to say that the Gliders and High Ones and Wavedancers are probably the same as human proportion, in height; of course you can tell they're elves by their willowy rather than sturdy build.
Post by: Larialoyla on August 04, 2011, 09:57:08 AM
Post by: Tevokkia on August 05, 2011, 06:27:53 AM
Also, a question- I fell in love with Willowgreen as a character reading Ties that Bind, the Mercedes Lackey story in BoTC 4: Against the Wind. The Two-Spear miniseries, however, details a very different chain of events, and each of her different writers gives her a (sometimes vastly) different personality. (I'm drawing her more with the Lackey personality traits than the Yale/Blevins/Shelton, Monago/Bonnels/Kaalberg, or Collins/Barral/Blair personality traits). Since none were actually written by Wendy and Richard, which is considered more canon? Or does it really matter?
Post by: Foxeye on August 05, 2011, 08:46:02 AM
I would say (as you do) that the non-Wendy renditions are often so vague in their characterization (and outright wrong at times), that I think you have room for interpretation in her body-language/personality/facial-features. Opinions Windrider?
(Why oh why didn't The Ties that Bind make it into the BoTC comic adaptations?! Or In Memory Green? THe latter was SUCH a touching story of the high ones and their first generation that I cry a little inside whenever I remember that How Shall I Keep From Singing made it non-canon. Richard wrote a beautiful story.)
(There's an amazing story about the high ones and their first generation, written by Richard himself no less, that is made non-canon by the "How Shall I Keep From Singing?" two-parter. THat is one of the saddest "casualties", imho, even though the characters from HSIKFS are very pretty people. :) )
Post by: Treefox on August 05, 2011, 09:05:27 AM
I am so glad that I got the novels (even though I had to pay more for customs than for the actual books)! There were so many stories in them that I loved. I loved all the dark Rahnee stories and generally all that information about "The Hunt". I also wish so very much that those stories would have made it into comics.
I think that any interpretation of Willowgreen based on those stories can only be good.
Post by: Foxeye on August 05, 2011, 09:08:26 AM
Post by: Startear on August 05, 2011, 01:38:01 PM
Tentatively I'd say Willlwgreen from the Two-Spear and Kahvi series *is* supposed to be canon, but...I'm with you that I really like the Ties that Bind version so much more.
I would say (as you do) that the non-Wendy renditions are often so vague in their characterization (and outright wrong at times), that I think you have room for interpretation in her body-language/personality/facial-features. Opinions Windrider?
(Why oh why didn't The Ties that Bind make it into the BoTC comic adaptations?! Or In Memory Green? THe latter was SUCH a touching story of the high ones and their first generation that I cry a little inside whenever I remember that How Shall I Keep From Singing made it non-canon. Richard wrote a beautiful story.)
(There's an amazing story about the high ones and their first generation, written by Richard himself no less, that is made non-canon by the "How Shall I Keep From Singing?" two-parter. THat is one of the saddest "casualties", imho, even though the characters from HSIKFS are very pretty people. :) )
Considering what they did to the story called Summer Tag and Colors, I'm rather glad they didn't adapt those stories into the comics. But then again, I say that the stories in the anthologies can beat the canon stories any day.
That being said, I fell in love with Willowgreen in the Kahvi comics, but any portrayal is good to me!
Post by: Foxeye on August 05, 2011, 01:45:11 PM
Considering what they did to the story called Summer Tag and Colors, I'm rather glad they didn't adapt those stories into the comics.
True. :-\
Then again, I rather liked the interpretation of Tales of the Snow Beast and At the Oak's Root.
Post by: Tevokkia on August 05, 2011, 02:28:53 PM
Post by: Startear on August 05, 2011, 03:24:05 PM
True. :-\
Then again, I rather liked the interpretation of Tales of the Snow Beast and At the Oak's Root.
Agreed. Tale of the Snowbeast is one of the few stories I felt was given proper justice. At the Oak's Root was one I never finished reading, since I was moving while reading that book and had to deliver it to my friend, who has them all.
To not be completely off-topic, I haven't even started mine yet...not that I'm not thinking about the compositions, they are just in the planning phase. :)
Post by: Mist-eyes on August 05, 2011, 04:54:20 PM
Hmph .... I just realized how amazing awful my action shot is (aside from the face and head). After I started putting colors down. I've got a better idea for a pose, but it's going to be fun trying to salvage the part I like since it's on 5 different layers.. I totally know what you mean!! I worked on the action shot yesterday (which I liked) then worked on the portrait which just didn't look right and only because I'd been sitting infront of it for too long. :P
Post by: Tevokkia on August 05, 2011, 05:32:42 PM
. I totally know what you mean!! I worked on the action shot yesterday (which I liked) then worked on the portrait which just didn't look right and only because I'd been sitting infront of it for too long. :P
I managed to fix it after a little bit and think the new pose is much better- both more in-character for Willowgreen and kinder to my dislike of drawing feet in weird positions. ::)
Although I think I ended up re-drawing the lips on the pin-up and portrait at least four times each today before I was completely happy with them. I've finally moved on to coloring.
Post by: jaRf on August 06, 2011, 08:35:34 AM
The past week I was fighting with myself if to try or not. I looked at the list and found old Suntoucher not receiving love yet. I knew there would definitely be reference pictures so... give some love to the elderly ones. Heh. And now he's already claimed 2 times, lol. Seems I'm too slow.
Um, Clearbrook with long braid is also taken, humm, Venka is claimed once ... but she deserves better artist than me. ;)
Hmm, so whom to take? Whom to take?
Some of these names sound unfamiliar to me, and I read both English and German versions. But then I just noticed on that occasion that I have a good bunch of unread EQ material around here in my shelf. Whoa. I suck. :) But at least there is quite a lot of reference material here, and then there are also the officially released online comics.
Just in case sombody wonders why I didn't claim Rayek 12 times already... ;D
I'm not sure if I could do him justice. You know, I probably suck at art and I am so out of practise at all *sigh*. And you know, he is probably not the easiest to bring to paper/bytes and he deserves the best, of course. Rest assured, Valkyrie, Goldelf and Joyrider, I watch you closely. *Bruahahahaaaaaa* ;)
So when I look at that long list I see a few unclaimed elves.
Skimback and Spine. Spine is the Punk-hair Wavedancer, right? And for Skimback I also found refs. Hmm. *scratches chin* Hmm?
Shushen is unclaimed, is there any more appearance than somewhere in one or two issues of NewBlood?
Rainso... *Refreshes browser cache* wait... aha. Taken. Wow. Things happen too fast for me. ;)
Btw. Moonmirror is a female Wavedancer I just found not to appear in this list.
I have few Wave Dancers material here and she's also in one of the online WD parts that are not BlackMermaidProd. enough or something to be published online. So maybe we could add her to the list?
Furthermore I remembered Lutei (aka Zharin? see Bonita's Newstar page), the deceased lifemate of Newstar and father of Kimo. Also not on the list.
Is it allowed to suck at art and still claim one?
I mean I first thought to try, see the result and then decide to take part or better not but with slots filling so quickly...
If nobody cries I'd consider taking one of the yet unclaimed ones.
OMG, and I just imagined Trinket. I am somehow sure she'll have a huge pink ribbon on her head. :)
I better go shopping before the supermarket closes here and to get her out of my mind. OMG, she's shaking her hips! Raaaah! And she tried applying tons of lipstick.
Post by: Mirror on August 06, 2011, 09:52:15 AM
If you want to draw Clearbrook, I believe there's a version of her that hasn't been claimed yet (didn't she have a long skirt/dress at one point?) Also, the "teenager" version of Venka hasn't been taken. Rainsong is just drawn by one person, that means that either the sun-villager or the wolfrider-version of her is still up for grabs, you'd have to ask Windrider :)
Also, I believe Moonmirror is not included since she's still a child according to Waverider standards :)
Post by: Foxeye on August 06, 2011, 11:25:49 AM
Moonmirror has such beautiful coloration that I'd love to see her included.
Edit: Oh oh, we're missing Foam as well, Spray's lovely daughter. She's definitely old enough, seeing as she has a son of her own (Puffer). :)
In addition to a fan artist yearbook, this thing may turn into the ultimate graphic Who's Who of ElfQuest. :P
Post by: jaRf on August 06, 2011, 12:19:43 PM
In addition to a fan artist yearbook, this thing may turn into the ultimate graphic Who's Who of ElfQuest. :P
True thing. :)
> Moonmirror
Well, I didn't read the entire story yet, I just flipped quickly through pages since there were a few description and standalone pictures of the characters. And she didn't look much like a child there.
Post by: Foxeye on August 06, 2011, 12:22:36 PM
Post by: Windrider on August 06, 2011, 02:53:45 PM
Yep, Moonmirror would have to be old enough to be included since Brill says she is older than Sunstream and we are including Sunstream. Actually, there are a lot of Wavedancers not on the list yet. I love Spine and I keep thinking I am going to have to claim him if no one else is going to show him some love! (Pfft! I have my doubts, with the size that this project is growing to, that I can get my original character choices done!)
Quote from: Foxeye
In addition to a fan artist yearbook, this thing may turn into the ultimate graphic Who's Who of ElfQuest. :P
LOL True! But then, we need to get artists to claim say, the Future Quest gang! And there's a bunch of BoTC characters I don't even know. Edit: Speaking of which, under what category would I put Zarhan Fastfire? Not really a wolfrider, I guess he goes in "other."
Jarf: Come on... you know you want to draw Rayek. With the help of crits from Foxeye and I - you can do it!
Post by: Startear on August 06, 2011, 03:58:55 PM
So many characters, so little time...
Post by: Tevokkia on August 06, 2011, 05:00:06 PM
I'm suddenly super excited about Greywolf, though.
Post by: jaRf on August 07, 2011, 04:43:43 AM
So many characters, so little time...
But many artists much combined time. Of course it's hard if you're full of ideas, bursting with creative energy but lack the time to give it a vent.
And Windrider got pm.
OMG. :)
edit:
I know you all are perfect ;) but if it is of use for anybody I'd like to remind you of the following pages
http://www.elfquest.com/fun/CharModels1.html (http://www.elfquest.com/fun/CharModels1.html)
http://www.elfquest.com/fun/CharModels2.html (http://www.elfquest.com/fun/CharModels2.html)
I think there was even more from Wendy's hints and tips for drawing EQ stuff.
Post by: Startear on August 07, 2011, 04:19:35 PM
Post by: branchscamper on August 07, 2011, 07:25:11 PM
So far I only have Longfin's closeup and part of her action shot. I have the idea of the rest of the picture it's just making sure it turns out the way I want it to XD Also I forgot I have to do these in full colour. I've done b/w's for so long I think this will be the most challenging part haha
Okay back to drawing...
Post by: ceruleanblue on August 07, 2011, 08:55:05 PM
Post by: silentleaf on August 07, 2011, 09:33:38 PM
Post by: Foxeye on August 07, 2011, 10:22:53 PM
Welcome to EQFA, ceruleanblue. :)
Post by: Afke on August 08, 2011, 01:43:06 AM
but if it is of use for anybody I'd like to remind you of the following pagesAbout that 1st page; please don't use those poses for the calendar. :o They've been so overly used that it's just boring to come across them anywhere. If you use 'm for character design or something, fine, but not the calendar please. I know it's not a contest this year, but if you have troubles coming up with poses, look through magazines or google something. You'll get more creative and original results that way, but still have the convenience of having an example.
http://www.elfquest.com/fun/CharModels1.html (http://www.elfquest.com/fun/CharModels1.html)
Post by: jaRf on August 08, 2011, 02:03:06 AM
Post by: Afke on August 08, 2011, 02:05:28 AM
I only meant the 1st page, those RPG poses.
Post by: Windrider on August 08, 2011, 10:50:09 AM
Yeah, on weekends she tends to get out and be active. The name "Windrider" in her case is somewhat literal. ;) You'll hear from her soon I'm sure.
Yep, this is true! Folks gotta be patient and remember that some people like to get out in nature and not spend their weekends in front of a computer. In fact, Foxeye will remember that prior to the start of this calendar project, I spent an entire month with no internet access, no phone, and no electronic devices of any kind. :gasp: Okay, not strictly true, since we had radar, GPS, and Marine Radio - but the Captain and I are quite capable of finding our way around the world's oceans with just a compass, a sextant, and dead-reckoning. It wasn't hell - it was heaven!
Please remember also that I am averaging about 10 PMs received per day. I try to be fair and assign characters in the order requested, but I also spend a bit of time trying to shuffle choices so everyone is satisfied with their picks.
Post by: Windrider on August 09, 2011, 11:21:10 AM
So, not surprisingly, most of the characters who are left are male. Quite a few main characters aren't getting too much love. So these hunky guys still have a version or two left to claim:
Cutter, Mender, Pike, Scouter, Skywise, Rayek
These lesser known guys are also up for grabs:
Windkin in his blue jumpsuit, Kimo in his Forevergreen costume. Sun Villagers Yurek and Shunshen. Gobacks Yif and Vok. A number of Wavedancers like Redcrest, Strand and Kroosh. A couple interesting humans, Ikopek (Bee) and Khorbasi. And a few High Ones: Aerth, Deir and Kalil.
The females available are more limited, but there's still a few:
Nightfall (Hidden Years outfit), Shenshen (Wolfrider-ish KotBW and also her new Searcher outfit), Yun and Krim as they appear in Wild Hunt, Urda (Kahvi's second in command), and Wavedancers Foam and Moonmirror.
There's also Blood of Ten Chiefs characters I don't know enough about to list. Wendy included a beautiful elf maiden Murrel in the Lovemates calendar, paired with Timmorn. I don't know anything about her, but she must be canon.
Post by: Tevokkia on August 09, 2011, 02:26:33 PM
... I feel like such an EQ Fan Art hipster right now ... all of my current claimed characters are among the lesser-known, and one of them is downright obscure. >.<
On a slighly-unrelated note, I did finally do a bit of actual, non-calendar EQ art so that I could have something in my gallery here (even if it is a quickie).
Post by: Foxeye on August 09, 2011, 02:45:14 PM
... I feel like such an EQ Fan Art hipster right now ... all of my current claimed characters are among the lesser-known, and one of them is downright obscure. >.<
*bite lip and snicker* Now I want to add thick-rimmed glasses to my Windstone entry....
Post by: Tevokkia on August 10, 2011, 07:01:14 AM
*bite lip and snicker* Now I want to add thick-rimmed glasses to my Windstone entry....
... I'm seriously thinking of adding them to mine. After the calendar is out, of course.
It's kinda' funny ... I usually draw women, but I'm much happier with my Graywolf than I am with Willowgreen, and Zarhan is coming along really well too (his portrait, anyway). His hair is interesting, since they gave him a 'do that looks like some unholy union of Jareth the Goblin King, KISS, and a Final Fantasy character. ... I can't help but tone it down a bit.
Post by: Multimedea on August 10, 2011, 08:33:07 AM
Wendy included a beautiful elf maiden Murrel in the Lovemates calendar, paired with Timmorn. I don't know anything about her, but she must be canon.
Murrel (Valloa) is Rahnee the She-Wolf's mom. :D
Post by: Windrider on August 10, 2011, 12:00:58 PM
His hair is interesting, since they gave him a 'do that looks like some unholy union of Jareth the Goblin King, KISS, and a Final Fantasy character. ... I can't help but tone it down a bit.
Yeah, the artist made him look sickly thin, but I always imagined he would have a sort of gaunt, David Bowie like sexiness. The hair... well, I think the High Ones and first born would have had difficulties maintaining their long flowing tresses in the harsh struggle for survival and Zarhan just gave up and let it become dreads. ;)
Thanks Medea for some info on Murrel. Is the Lovemates calendar the only image we have of her?
Post by: Foxeye on August 10, 2011, 12:36:23 PM
Thanks Medea for some info on Murrel. Is the Lovemates calendar the only image we have of her?
She's also on this cover:
(http://d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net/iss/600w/606/21946061/963645.jpg)
Post by: Mirror on August 10, 2011, 01:11:18 PM
At least I suppose it's her, although unnamed back then :)
Post by: Tevokkia on August 10, 2011, 01:43:07 PM
Yeah, the artist made him look sickly thin, but I always imagined he would have a sort of gaunt, David Bowie like sexiness. The hair... well, I think the High Ones and first born would have had difficulties maintaining their long flowing tresses in the harsh struggle for survival and Zarhan just gave up and let it become dreads. ;)
Yeah, David Bowie was what I was going for on the figure, and I'm just drawing the hair to look a little less teased. There's not enough product on the World of Two Moons to keep Zarhan's hair sticking up the way it does in the comic at that length.
Post by: Multimedea on August 11, 2011, 09:49:06 AM
http://www.elfquest.com/comic_viewer.php?fd=/gallery/OnlineComics/OQ/OQ13/_Original%20ElfQuest%20-%2013_page=1#_1 (http://www.elfquest.com/comic_viewer.php?fd=/gallery/OnlineComics/OQ/OQ13/_Original%20ElfQuest%20-%2013_page=1#_1)
Post by: Treefox on August 12, 2011, 01:00:18 PM
Post by: Mist-eyes on August 12, 2011, 02:54:09 PM
I just finished the sketch for my Nightfall full body shot and was flipping through the pages of the last issue of OQ. I couldn't help but being drawn in again and finding myself tearing up at the end. How can it be that it manages to do it after reading it for the millionth time? That truly is the magic of Elfquest for me, I guess.
I had the same emotions flipping through KOTBW every time each thinks the other is lost and then at the reunion... Elfquest is truly wonderful story telling at it's best.
Post by: Eregyrn on August 12, 2011, 05:17:50 PM
I just finished the sketch for my Nightfall full body shot and was flipping through the pages of the last issue of OQ. I couldn't help but being drawn in again and finding myself tearing up at the end. How can it be that it manages to do it after reading it for the millionth time? That truly is the magic of Elfquest for me, I guess.
I totally do that at any number of scenes, even when I'm just flipping through.
Post by: Tevokkia on August 13, 2011, 04:47:24 AM
I just finished the sketch for my Nightfall full body shot and was flipping through the pages of the last issue of OQ. I couldn't help but being drawn in again and finding myself tearing up at the end. How can it be that it manages to do it after reading it for the millionth time? That truly is the magic of Elfquest for me, I guess.
I actually sat down and read everything from OC to Dreamtime this week (I had hurt my hand and couldn't draw) and was surprised at how often I teared up too, even after having read it so many times. The same scenes get me every time, although I notice that even more of the scenes involving children tear me up after having become a mother myself.
Post by: Wolfrider on August 14, 2011, 09:13:29 PM
Failing that, Clearbrook, Ember and Leetah are on my list of pin-up possibilities.
Post by: Treefox on August 15, 2011, 05:47:55 AM
Windrider, would you agree to this or would it be too much Nightfall?
Post by: Windrider on August 15, 2011, 11:06:00 AM
So yeah.... I'll put you on the list for Hidden Years Nightfall. ;D
Post by: Windrider on August 15, 2011, 12:06:14 PM
Granted, there are only 6 finished pieces submitted so far, but still.... it is months away from the deadline and usually I don't get the first submission until October. ;D
Post by: Treefox on August 15, 2011, 12:13:16 PM
Post by: Foxeye on August 15, 2011, 12:56:59 PM
This is the biggest EQ fan art project I know of, short of the fan movie! :o
...and if there are any media pundits out there lurking for cute soundbites, NO, this fan art project is not happening because the fan movie caused a resurgence in interest!
The fan movie is AWESOME and a very significant achievement, but none of us were waiting around for them to hoist the banner to rally behind. We've been sharing our love of EQ for many decades, and this awesome 10th anniversary event is just the culmination of that. Well, and an excuse to draw fanservice. ^_^
Post by: Startear on August 15, 2011, 01:27:23 PM
Post by: Wolfrider on August 15, 2011, 09:40:34 PM
Post by: Foxeye on August 16, 2011, 09:24:28 AM
Question: Would Hidden Years era Nightfall essentially be the same as Dreamtime Nightfall? Between the two, Wendy changed her outfit very slightly. But I like to be sure about these things. Anyway, there's more copious images of Nightfall from Dreamtime.
I think so, especially as Hidden Years (if you are talking about the storyline with Ember, and not brief glimpses of Nightfall throughout the first five issues as drawn by Wendy), was a different artist altogether. :)
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On a slightly different subject, someone on Deviant Art just did a pinup of one of the Original Wavedancers. We can't include the OWD in the calendar, so sadly this can't be an entry...but that means we can enjoy it now instead of in a half year. ^_^ I <3 Sleia.
AmethystSadachbia (http://amethystsadachbia.deviantart.com/art/Calendar-style-Sleia-252897046)
(http://th02.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2011/226/9/d/calendar_style_sleia_by_amethystsadachbia-d46kgly.png)
Post by: Wolfrider on August 16, 2011, 10:10:06 AM
Oh, here's a hint of things to come with my Nightfall: the return of hot pants! ;D
Post by: Treefox on August 16, 2011, 12:13:57 PM
Post by: Foxeye on August 16, 2011, 12:38:57 PM
Post by: Wolfrider on August 16, 2011, 01:13:45 PM
by the by, could we post previews of our entries here? Or let everyone wait and be surprised?
Post by: Foxeye on August 16, 2011, 01:46:37 PM
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by the by, could we post previews of our entries here? Or let everyone wait and be surprised?
You can share discarded ideas, but not previews of the final entry. I think. Windrider?
Post by: Tevokkia on August 16, 2011, 03:17:31 PM
Post by: Windrider on August 16, 2011, 08:53:07 PM
I finally began scetching my drawings. And poor Minyah looks like a zombie. ::)
Zombie elves are why Foxeye and I have volunteered our services to help with anatomy and other artistic problems anyone may be having. ;D We are both on the judging crew (if indeed there will need to be any judging), so it doesn't ruin any surprise sharing your sketches with us.
No posting of previews of your entry publicly, though! I guess it is okay to share discarded ideas... but personally I would wait until the big public sharing. So much of the usual element of surprise is lost this year out of necessity that I kind of want to encourage everyone to keep whatever surprises they can.
Post by: Treefox on August 16, 2011, 10:03:52 PM
Post by: Faerydae on August 17, 2011, 03:48:14 AM
Post by: Obi-Rak Kaeliri on August 17, 2011, 08:35:42 AM
Post by: Foxeye on August 17, 2011, 01:22:35 PM
Post by: Tevokkia on August 17, 2011, 02:55:59 PM
Is anyone else finding that they are drawing action pose aspect too small? Each of my pictures I've had to scale down the headshot and size-up the action shot. :P
I'm having to essentially just draw everything on a separate layer and size it accordingly afterward ... since the head and action elements are essentially square, and action, to me, generally suggests something either horizontal or vertical (not necessarily strongly so, but certainly not square!), I'm having trouble keeping my action shot from running outside its quarter page. I'm afraid two out of three of them are somewhat less than truly action-oriented.
Post by: silentleaf on August 17, 2011, 04:03:03 PM
Post by: Mirror on August 17, 2011, 04:17:20 PM
Anyone else has the problem that as soon as you're reasonably happy with one pose, the other two suddenly seem horrible and make you want to start the entire picture from scratch? :P
Post by: Tevokkia on August 17, 2011, 04:23:01 PM
Anyone else has the problem that as soon as you're reasonably happy with one pose, the other two suddenly seem horrible and make you want to start the entire picture from scratch? :PI've started Willowgreen from scratch at least three times, the most recent of which was after I was more than half done with the colors. But it was more that I was so happy with my lines for Graywolf and Zarhan that I was disappointed in hers by comparison.
Post by: Treefox on August 18, 2011, 12:24:44 AM
But for me it helped a lot that I sketched the whole composition on a square paper beforehand.
Post by: Mist-eyes on August 18, 2011, 01:52:54 AM
I had the same problem with Aroree! I thought the action pose was too small, but kind feedback from Windrider assured me it was okay. I really like the composition of my Aroree pic, so I was happy to be able to leave it like it was at least for now. There definitely might come the tome when I want to do it all over again...
But for me it helped a lot that I sketched the whole composition on a square paper beforehand.
Same here -- I think seeing the square space that you have to fill puts you in the right mindset for fitting everything in and making it flow. Good luck!
Post by: Afke on August 18, 2011, 03:17:37 AM
since the head and action elements are essentially square, and action, to me, generally suggests something either horizontal or vertical (not necessarily strongly so, but certainly not square!)
I have to disagree! There are tons of possibilities, in all three elements.
For example the action shot; if you make the character sit or squat, then the space needed will be more squareshaped. Action doesn't only mean standing or running, just make 'm do something in character and you're good.
Post by: Tevokkia on August 18, 2011, 05:56:46 AM
I have to disagree! There are tons of possibilities, in all three elements.
For example the action shot; if you make the character sit or squat, then the space needed will be more squareshaped. Action doesn't only mean standing or running, just make 'm do something in character and you're good.
I ended up doing the sit/squat thing, but normally when someone asks me for an action pose, they're asking for dynamic movement. So it's hard to get out of that mindset.
Post by: branchscamper on August 18, 2011, 05:38:31 PM
And since I've been drawing in b/w ink for well over 2 years now when I went and re-read the rules the "full colour" put me in full panic. I'm trying to come up with the best way for me to go about that. I wish I had time to practice on my tablet, but every thing is being done by hand at the moment.
Ok I'll get over my funk and get to work!
Post by: Tevokkia on August 18, 2011, 07:34:06 PM
And since I've been drawing in b/w ink for well over 2 years now when I went and re-read the rules the "full colour" put me in full panic. I'm trying to come up with the best way for me to go about that. I wish I had time to practice on my tablet, but every thing is being done by hand at the moment.
Ok I'll get over my funk and get to work!
You can always draw/ink your work in black and white and color on the computer, if it's easier for you than using real media for colors. Depending on what program you have on your computer, there are plenty of people on the forum to give you pointers. If you need some Photoshop suggestions, I'd be happy to describe some techniques (or give you some action files, which are wonderful, blessed time savers), as until about 6 months ago, I was working primarily in ink and then coloring digitally.
Post by: Startear on August 19, 2011, 05:17:30 AM
Zombie elves are why Foxeye and I have volunteered our services to help with anatomy and other artistic problems anyone may be having. ;D We are both on the judging crew (if indeed there will need to be any judging), so it doesn't ruin any surprise sharing your sketches with us.
Hehe, the problem was that I started with the hat, because it is so huge. Then when I drew the face the mouth turned more like stitches. A art teacher told me once that if you get frustrated or can't make it properly, then you should turn it into something else. So now I have a Minyah shaped purple hat with a brown skinned face, green eyes, and stitch mouth. And it flies.
Maybe I should post it...
Post by: Foxeye on August 19, 2011, 08:54:15 AM
So now I have a Minyah shaped purple hat with a brown skinned face, green eyes, and stitch mouth. And it flies.
Maybe I should post it...
Oh please do! That sounds amazing....Flying Minyah Zombie can have my Ninja Treewee for a sidekick if she wants. ^_^
Post by: Startear on August 19, 2011, 11:24:59 AM
Post by: Windrider on August 19, 2011, 05:56:34 PM
Quote from: Tevokkia
.... and action, to me, generally suggests something either horizontal or vertical (not necessarily strongly so, but certainly not square!)
Huh, I feel that both vertical and horizontal are fairly static. "Action" to me means diagonals! It is not difficult to fit an action shot in a square; instead of very upright poses, think running, leaping, holding a bow/sword out away from the body... those kinds of things.
Quote from: Tevokkia
I'm having trouble keeping my action shot from running outside its quarter page.
I hope you guys aren't being so strict about the 1/2, page, 1/4 page thing. I said "approximately." Look at Wendy's pin-ups, the size relations are fairly flexible. On most of them, the portrait takes up more room than 1/4 page and the action shot takes less (Timmain and Skywise are reversed though).
So don't divide your page so inflexibly. I am finding that having the "sexy pose" not be such a rectangular 1/2 page does wonders for the composition. If it goes over the 1/2 mark on either top or bottom and less than 1/2 page on the other end, that leaves room for the portrait where more space is left and the action shot where less space is left. Since you can have a bit of scenery in the "sexy pose" it is fairly easy to make it non-rectangular.
Of course, it does change the rules a bit when your character can fly. ;) My Aurek piece has an atypical layout for these pin-ups, even though all the elements are pretty much the same proportions as Wendy's.
Quote from: Tevokkia
I'm afraid two out of three of them are somewhat less than truly action-oriented.
Well, look at Wendy's. That is about the same ratio she came up with, too! ;D Warriors need real action poses! Gardeners and healers... not so much.
Post by: Windrider on August 19, 2011, 06:07:31 PM
And since I've been drawing in b/w ink for well over 2 years now when I went and re-read the rules the "full colour" put me in full panic. I'm trying to come up with the best way for me to go about that. I wish I had time to practice on my tablet, but every thing is being done by hand at the moment.
If you've got some nice line work in black ink, one of the most attractive ways to color it is as if it were an animation cel, fairly simple coloration that won't take away from the nice line work. There was just a wonderful coloring tutorial posted on DeviantArt yesterday on different types of coloring that you would probably find very useful:
http://today.deviantart.com/dds/?day=2011-08-16#/d45i1k3 (http://today.deviantart.com/dds/?day=2011-08-16#/d45i1k3)
By the way, that type of coloring doesn't have to be done on the computer. I know Afke often does a hand inked drawing, scans it (maybe adjusts some proportions), does a bit of base coloring on the computer, then prints it on nice paper to be finished with traditional coloring methods. To see a version of this type of coloring done completely in traditional media, look at the Skywise Christmas greeting in my gallery. That one was inked in permanent ink, then I used mostly watercolor for the fairly simple coloring job.
When we say "full color," don't think it has to look "painted."
Post by: Tevokkia on August 19, 2011, 07:38:33 PM
Warriors need real action poses! Gardeners and healers... not so much.
Well, Graywolf, at least, looks like he's trying to fit as much awesome onto his not-quite-square as possible. Willowgreen is definitely just chillin', though. >.<
Post by: Foxeye on August 19, 2011, 09:17:26 PM
I set out originally to do my pinups using the same "thin pencil ink" style that I did many of my recent EQ fan art pieces in, but after seeing how much fun I had with Yereh in a bit more slap-dash style, I'm thinking I may just paint over the inks. Constraining myself to "lines" never has produced my best artwork, as much as I admire people with strong inks. I can never "reign in" my colors sufficiently to work nicely with inks. :-\
Post by: Windrider on August 19, 2011, 09:55:43 PM
I know I've said it somewhere else here, but it bears repeating. Artist by and large fall into one of two camps; those who think primarily in line and those who think primarily in tone/color. It is important to note that one is not better than the other. Most, if not all, artists have some crossover; of course line artists will use color/tone and tonal artists will use line, but one or the other will dominate the art. It is rarely all that successful if you try to go against your natural instinct.
Comics artists are nearly all line-oriented. Just a fact of the medium historically, but it is increasingly possible to do tone-oriented comics with the evolution of how comics are printed/available. Wendy is most definitely a line artist primarily (her color use is very nice, but nowhere near the spectacular beauty of her line), so most fan artists try to emulate her. Even Foxeye and I have fallen in that trap, but both of us are tone artists! Our most successful EQ art is made by using Wendy's character design and proportions, but done in our own style.
I hope this is how you all are approaching the pin-ups, because this calendar has truly epic potential for a range of styles.
On a side note, it always amazes me that people like my line work so much. Compared to a true line artist, I think my lines are overworked and don't flow all that well. It is because I am fighting my natural inclination to almost "sculpt" a form out of light and shadow instead. Inking is painful. I have almost a pathological aversion to putting a stark black line on a pristine white surface - I can do it, but it stresses me out! :o
Post by: aurianfae on August 19, 2011, 11:49:47 PM
Post by: Afke on August 20, 2011, 02:36:27 AM
The only "uniformity" we're looking for, is that you leave white around your picture, as it is done in the original pin-up calendar, and that the picture is done in color. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's okay all similarities stop there. :)
Post by: Afke on August 20, 2011, 02:43:03 AM
Hehe, the problem was that I started with the hat, because it is so huge.No matter how big that hat is, it's still only an accessory. It has to fit on a head, in stead of the other way 'round; so start by drawing the head, and fit the hat on top of that. :]
Post by: Windrider on August 20, 2011, 08:01:29 AM
Quote from: Windrider
... successful EQ art is made by using Wendy's character design and proportions, but done in (y)our own style.
I hope this is how you all are approaching the pin-ups, because this calendar has truly epic potential for a range of styles.
Post by: Tevokkia on August 20, 2011, 09:49:50 AM
Post by: Startear on August 20, 2011, 12:44:22 PM
Post by: Faerydae on August 20, 2011, 05:07:09 PM
I'm trying to break away from that more and more, but its very hard to do.
Post by: aurianfae on August 21, 2011, 01:04:09 PM
Post by: Wolfrider on August 21, 2011, 07:29:58 PM
I think I may be done! Just wanted to make sure..
Post by: Windrider on August 21, 2011, 08:18:41 PM
http://www.elfquest.com/social/index.php?do=/EQArtGallery/photo/elfquest-1998-calendar/ (http://www.elfquest.com/social/index.php?do=/EQArtGallery/photo/elfquest-1998-calendar/)
The only differences are the square formats, the not-so-strict arrangement of the compositional elements, and the fact that there should be a ton of different styles by different artists. Note that in Wendy's pin-ups, some have a background of sorts behind the "sexy" pose, but on some there is no background at all anywhere. In any case, on all of them the background is mostly white.
A couple of the pin-ups already submitted have a more extensive background than Wendy's, but viewing them all in the gallery, they still look part of the series because of the white margins. We won't complain if a weapon goes off the page, but really take a look at Wendy's to try to get in the spirit of this project.
Post by: branchscamper on August 21, 2011, 11:25:21 PM
@ Windrider - Thank you for the link! I will read it more thoroughly and try to experiment. My artist style is very, very basic compared to what I've been reading and seeing *^_^*;; I have painted on canvas, but only scenic and as my goal the past couple years has been to be a mangaka I haven't spent a lot of time on colour; mostly focusing on lines. When I do colour it is very close to cartoon/animation variety. I feel so...amateur here...
On a good note I bought new pens to do my outlines and am soooo happy! I had my last set stolen and have had to "make due" with ones that made my lines too thick (well atleast for me) so I am ready to attack my work again! I think I will spend the time drawing all my pieces and then freak over the colouring once I am finished *lol*
Post by: Afke on August 22, 2011, 10:57:37 AM
Post by: Windrider on August 22, 2011, 04:16:51 PM
Aerth
Cutter (Full Circle/Searcher long fur robe version)
Deir
Dewshine (SaBM)
Dodia (SaBM)
Ikopek/Bee
Kahvi (Hidden Years "Going Back")
Kalil
Khorbasi
Kimo (Sun Village/Forevergreen)
Kroosh
Mardu
Mender (any Wild Hunt, Mender's Tale, or Recognition version)
Newstar (Searcher)
Pike (patchwork)
Prey-Pacer
Rayek (as a major character, he needs all kinds of love: SaBM, Shards, buckle outfit, etc)
Redlance (Searcher)
Scouter (SaBM or Wild Hunt - or even a "bad guy" chief Scouter)
Shushen
Skywise (OQ and/or SaBM outfit)
Strand
Strongbow (SaBM)
Treestump (OQ, SaBM or Searcher)
Windkin (blue jumpsuit look in the "Going Back" story)
Woodlock (Don't know which version Eleri is doing, but he has both "woldrider" and Sun Village)
Yun (Wild Hunt, Recognition)
Post by: Tevokkia on August 22, 2011, 07:05:39 PM
Although if anyone else wants technical instructions for separating your linework from your background in Photoshop, I can always post it somewhere anyway.
I've got some tutorials that I'm working on making ... they're not EQ-related, but they are technique tutorials (mostly for Photoshop, but they apply to almost any kind of digital coloring). Would people be interested in my posting them? I haven't been on here long and I don't know what people like.
Post by: Wolfrider on August 22, 2011, 07:36:20 PM
Post by: Rosalie on August 23, 2011, 08:13:50 AM
If I can find the time I would love to do a male character as well but I can't really choose...
Post by: Wolfrider on August 23, 2011, 09:06:01 AM
Post by: Windrider on August 23, 2011, 11:52:14 AM
Yes, Wolfrider is right, the story "Going Back" is in Hidden Years #2. The costume she wears there is tailor-made for this pin-up project; nice and skimpy. You could also draw her in her "Kahvi" series outfit. Or both, "sexy" pose in one and "costumed" pose in the other.
Wolfrider: I'll put you down for drawing Newstar, too, but folks should remember to PM me with their choices. Foxeye made that nice little navigation square in the upper right corner so we wouldn't have to spam forum discussions with private questions! ;)
Post by: Windrider on August 23, 2011, 12:07:00 PM
Reply #3 on this thread has been modified to be a continuously updated unclaimed character list. This should make it easier to find characters for artists just joining the project, or for you who have finished your first characters and want to see who needs some love.
Note that it STILL isn't a complete list. There are obscure characters yet to be included. And remember, each character may have TWO artists drawing them (more for the main characters). I haven't included every character with only one artist, so to find them you will still have to refer to the Master List in the second post.
Post by: PenDragon on August 25, 2011, 07:42:28 PM
Post by: Windrider on August 25, 2011, 09:01:12 PM
If this ends up including as much art as I hope, I was thinking of including an introduction on the subject of how beauty (and sexiness) is in the eye of the beholder. This seems an appropriate subject for our theme and the variety of characters we are including. I was hoping to have Richard write it - or maybe Wordgazer, if he can't.
If this becomes a two year "yearbook of fan art", it might also be interesting to have a little essay by a fan artist on artistic growth, how EQ influenced their art, or something such as that. Foxeye should write that piece (putting you on the spot, Foxy ;D )
Post by: Foxeye on August 26, 2011, 08:22:23 AM
Only if you promise to seek someone better if what I write sounds overly cheesy/dorky. Haven't done much writing lately.
Post by: AceQuester on August 27, 2011, 05:28:46 AM
i just signed in here because i wanna try to enter the contest/calendar. I'm only a beginner and this would be my first attemp so i hope that they are good enough to make it in the calendar. I do hope that someone can help me and advise me about what program i can use for coloring... I do have Adobe Illustrator but i haven't used it for 10 years so i really must learn everything from the beginning again.. :(
But i feel excited, just by drawing again. And i hope that everybody feels the dame :)
Ayooooooooooooh to you all!
Post by: AceQuester on August 27, 2011, 05:51:12 AM
Post by: Jeedai on August 27, 2011, 05:42:32 PM
I see that Jink is already taken.
But since other characters have been given multiple pages based on outfits or eras, would TPTB here be willing to split Jink into Human-form and Elf-form pin-ups, so I can take the one Wildfire isnt doing?
Post by: Wildfire on August 28, 2011, 06:09:59 AM
(boy am I looking into this late...)Well, as you said one character can be drawn by two artists, so go for it! I'm drawing Elf!Jink in her black-blue outfit she appeared in first time. She's actually got tons of outfits which is a bit surprising for the relatively short story!
I see that Jink is already taken.
But since other characters have been given multiple pages based on outfits or eras, would TPTB here be willing to split Jink into Human-form and Elf-form pin-ups, so I can take the one Wildfire isnt doing?
Post by: Treefox on August 29, 2011, 12:30:42 PM
Post by: Windrider on August 29, 2011, 06:15:04 PM
Quote from: Foxeye
Only if you promise to seek someone better if what I write sounds overly cheesy/dorky. Haven't done much writing lately.
Who else would be appropriate to write that other than our most fabulous Empress of the EQ Fan Art website! ;D Perhaps someone in the fandom a long time? Medea is a wonderful writer as well as artist. Anyone else have suggestions?
Quote from: AceQuester
I do hope that someone can help me and advise me about what program i can use for coloring... I do have Adobe Illustrator but i haven't used it for 10 years so i really must learn everything from the beginning again.. :(
Welcome AceQuester! You know, you don't have to color on the computer. I know everyone here is going to roll their eyes 'cause they've heard it a million times, but I really like traditional media. Use what you are comfortable with! If you don't feel like you can color well, there are also a few collaborative efforts in this calendar, with one person drawing and another coloring.
Quote from: Jeedai
I see that Jink is already taken.
Another newbie to welcome! Please, all you new artists, share some of your art in the gallery here. We are a well-established fan art community, but that doesn't mean we don't LOVE seeing new people's art here!
Jeedai, we'll work it out by PM, but Wildfire is right, two people can draw Jink. You can either draw her as human or pick a different costume than Wildfire.
Quote from: Treefox
At this speed both shall still take long, though... Just wanted to say that I'm still no less motivated to do this and see it through. ;D
Yeah at least you have one entry done and one progressing nicely. I can't seem to find time to get mine past the compositional sketch stage. :-\
Post by: Startear on August 30, 2011, 09:08:34 AM
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You know, you don't have to color on the computer.
Wait, there is another way to color than color pencils? Wow :P
Post by: branchscamper on August 30, 2011, 07:24:00 PM
I'll probably be attempting different variations of colouring to see what I like the most. It will probably end up in coloured pencils as it's my fave way to go. With a lot of line inking >_>
I'm enjoying myself way too much!
Post by: kittensoft on August 31, 2011, 09:40:33 PM
Post by: Startear on September 02, 2011, 01:19:33 PM
Post by: Wildfire on September 04, 2011, 02:23:17 PM
Post by: Startear on September 04, 2011, 03:23:41 PM
Post by: Foxeye on September 04, 2011, 09:46:30 PM
Question: I can't decide if I want to draw Chot in the Going Back outfit or Greenz. Anyone has a vote for me?
Whatever involves more layers...the more they wear, the more fun it is taking them off. ;)
Post by: Startear on September 05, 2011, 03:47:09 AM
Post by: branchscamper on September 05, 2011, 11:21:34 AM
Post by: jaRf on September 07, 2011, 03:13:54 PM
I did a
http://www.google.com/search?q=elfquest+gimp&safe=off (http://www.google.com/search?q=elfquest+gimp&safe=off)
cause I was curious and besides going through the usual tutorials I wanted to see if somebody dealt with the 2 very specific topics.
and look what I've found:
http://foxeye-art.com/tutorials/messyportrait_tutorial/ (http://foxeye-art.com/tutorials/messyportrait_tutorial/)
Heh. So in case it is useful for somebody and Jere too shy to promote her own tutorial... :)
Besides that I am making progress. Few but there is.
I mean, lines are going fairly ok by now, and I must say I might have been faster first using paper, scanning and then maybe vectorizing it.
But so I started completely digital with vectors for the linework and basic colouration (Inkscape, LibreOffice Draw). Using a mixture of tablet and mouse. Doesn't feel the same like paper, but then you can more easily correct things and edit around and try things without having to rub a hole in the paper by all that eraser use.
Later will throw it into Krita or GIMP and see what happens with the colours.
It's hard when you don't have any practise in so much things art related... I liked arts kinda in school but that is now >10 years ago.
Ah, and there is still so much to do about the picture. Well, stupid "RL" workload. :/
Post by: Foxeye on September 08, 2011, 10:45:46 PM
I've had three people now ask me for feedback, btw. If there is anyone else out there who would appreciate a draw-over, don't be shy! My focus is usually on anatomy, but I'd be happy to tackle other aspects as well.
Post by: Treefox on September 11, 2011, 01:58:18 AM
By the way, I have the urge to mention that I find it very exciting to read through the character list to see if there are new "DONE" marks somewhere. 11 pieces finished! Keep up the good work gals and guys!
Post by: branchscamper on September 11, 2011, 05:38:05 PM
So yep, that's my update!
I'm so excited to see the finished pieces everyone is working on. I love looking at the art being posted in the galleries here =D
Post by: Foxeye on September 11, 2011, 10:37:16 PM
Linky (http://www.elfquest.com/social/index.php?do=/forum/thread/permalink_533659/)
Post by: Emberra on September 11, 2011, 10:43:59 PM
Looks like Chitter can be added to the list of characters (assuming Wendy indicates her outfit colors before the submission deadline)!Are we sure that's her?
Linky (http://www.elfquest.com/social/index.php?do=/forum/thread/permalink_533659/)
Post by: Foxeye on September 11, 2011, 10:51:12 PM
(It's the clothes that do it for me. Poofy fur shoulders and tassles on the elbows, just like she had as an infant.)
Post by: Emberra on September 11, 2011, 10:54:03 PM
Post by: nilla on September 12, 2011, 12:18:57 AM
Post by: Startear on September 12, 2011, 03:30:45 AM
Post by: Treefox on September 12, 2011, 03:43:42 AM
Is it just me or does the outfit actually look like she has wooden ornaments on her sleeves and boots? How does that work?
Edit: I don't suppose this is Sunstream and Brill's kid grown-up?
Post by: Startear on September 12, 2011, 07:45:45 AM
Post by: Foxeye on September 12, 2011, 07:52:45 AM
And in color http://www.elfquest.com/social/index.php?do=/forum/-1/elfmom-s-sketchbook/view_533732/ (http://www.elfquest.com/social/index.php?do=/forum/-1/elfmom-s-sketchbook/view_533732/)
She has a fox tail on her pants :faint
Post by: Emberra on September 12, 2011, 08:02:32 AM
Post by: Treefox on September 12, 2011, 08:16:12 AM
I think this outfit is going to haunt me in my dreams...
Post by: Eregyrn on September 12, 2011, 08:57:20 AM
I also mourn for her lost short hair. This length/style feels kind of... generic to me. I'll cross my fingers that there's at least one or two female elves in FQ who have a cute, short 'do.
Post by: Jeb on September 12, 2011, 11:12:53 AM
Post by: Wildfire on September 12, 2011, 04:57:23 PM
I like her hairstyle, it's short and messy enough to be fun and different than most other elves (what with silken hair and pretty curls) and it definitely brings out her (presumably) quirky character.
Loving the colours, but I'm a bit (/very) confused about the tail. I mean.. What. A tail of all things? Seriously?
Post by: Eregyrn on September 12, 2011, 06:52:39 PM
Looking at that outfit more... boy, it must be annoying when she has to go to the bathroom! :lol (I thought that of Nightfall's one-piece from Hidden Year, as well.)
Yeah, if it's Chitter (and I agree, with that haircolor and the fur on the shoulders, I'd be shocked if it isn't her), I wonder what's up with the eye color?
Post by: Emberra on September 13, 2011, 07:33:36 AM
EDIT: It was posted by Wendy or Richard on the Facebook feed then confirmed on the EQ site's thread.
Post by: Afke on September 13, 2011, 08:06:40 AM
Post by: Wildfire on September 13, 2011, 10:12:45 AM
Yeah, if it's Chitter (and I agree, with that haircolor and the fur on the shoulders, I'd be shocked if it isn't her), I wonder what's up with the eye color?Either a slip-up on Wendy's side or do we have another shapechanger on our hands? Kimo managed to learn it, perhaps other elves are developing their latent abilities for magic. That would mean a lot more magic which would be really awesome :3
Post by: Treefox on September 14, 2011, 12:47:02 AM
Or has Chitter taken up tanning? Hard to imagine the squirrelly girl doing something like that.
Concerning the eye color, I guess it has happened before. I mean Moonshade was brown-eyed in the beginning as well.. So maybe just a matter of further style development and change.
While I think I like Chitter's hairstyle, I also would have liked to see her with shorter hair.
Post by: branchscamper on September 14, 2011, 02:56:44 PM
Concerning the eye color, I guess it has happened before. I mean Moonshade was brown-eyed in the beginning as well..
They've discovered coloured contacts on the World of Two Moons??? :o
Sorry! J/K! But I couldn't resist XD
Her design is interesting even though I'm not a fan of the onepiece. Very bright, but seems to fit the character of what I know her. Seeing new designs is so much fun!
Post by: Startear on September 15, 2011, 03:18:55 AM
Not blaming Wendy for eye color changes, it is just a detail which I've noticed after making Two-Spear and Skyfire as dolls.
Post by: Treefox on September 15, 2011, 08:32:28 AM
Post by: nilla on September 16, 2011, 03:33:44 PM
Hmmmm...
I said she reminded of Jink.
(and the hair still does)
But I'm not surprised it is Chitter. She seemed like a massive throwback so the tail makes a lot of sense to me.
Interesting design tho.
Now I'm just stuck with the thought Jink is Chitter and Skywise's kid...
Actually, I'm going to stick to that parring...
Post by: Windrider on September 21, 2011, 11:48:20 AM
The tail is just great if this is a young adult Chitter - about the same age as Ember when she had to lead her splinter group of Wolfriders during the Shards war. She may be pictured as a bit older than that, as she is a little more... developed. But in any case, youngsters often do fun, silly things - it is part of the appeal. I myself often sported a fake tail as a kid. A friend of mine so identified with animals that her memoirs of all her animal adventures was titled "Born Without a Tail."
Oh, and dying things two-toned isn't that hard. Haven't you guys ever done tie-dye? (geez, feeling like an old hippie, here)
Post by: Treefox on September 21, 2011, 12:13:00 PM
Post by: Eregyrn on September 21, 2011, 12:20:43 PM
Maybe it works just the same on nice, soft, thin leather! I'm just curious to know. I've home-dyed more fabric than leather (meaning, no leather at all), so I just don't know.
Or hmm... I wonder if those could even be cloth pieces? *looks again* No, they've got the ragged edges that usually mean leather.
(I personally quite like the tail! For the kind of crowd I ran with in my 20s, it wasn't that unusual a decorative item on clothes, in a certain context. So it feels like it fits the wolfrider context, to me; especially for a young-adult like Chitter.)
Post by: Multimedea on September 21, 2011, 03:54:36 PM
Think of it like tattooing (but without the needles). I'll upload some examples of dyed/painted leathers, if anyone's interested. :)
Post by: Emberra on September 21, 2011, 03:58:41 PM
Post by: Multimedea on September 21, 2011, 04:10:00 PM
Is it just me or does the outfit actually look like she has wooden ornaments on her sleeves and boots? How does that work?
Don't think it's wood, just puffy buff leather. I've seen motorcycle boots patterned that way.
Post by: Eregyrn on September 21, 2011, 04:14:47 PM
And yeah, the concept of dyed leather, I'm down with. It's the delicate two-tone effect that I was unsure you could get with leather and the primitive state of technology that Moonshade has available...
Post by: Multimedea on September 21, 2011, 04:41:14 PM
Post by: Eregyrn on September 21, 2011, 07:37:36 PM
Post by: Jeedai on September 22, 2011, 01:36:24 AM
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Hmmmm...I said she reminded of Jink.Jink's eye color changes, too. Wendy givers her baby blues, the comics give her green.
Post by: Treefox on September 22, 2011, 07:31:33 AM
And I would like to see your leather dyeing stuff, Multimedea! Interesting, I have never met a person who can do that.
@Emberra: Oh come on, I am sure it won't be that bad. You can do it!
If you feel you need help, Foxeye and Windrider are a great supprt.
Post by: Startear on September 22, 2011, 08:14:17 AM
Post by: Multimedea on September 22, 2011, 08:21:36 AM
Although North Americans did trade with Central and South Americans for indigo, the real intense blues (like the Navajo used) came along when settlers traded artificial blueing with them.
Post by: nilla on September 23, 2011, 05:23:14 AM
Minyah's "sexy" pose has proven a great challenge, as I've had a hard time figuring out which to use.:faint :lol
Post by: Treefox on September 23, 2011, 05:44:35 AM
Post by: Matsurin on September 24, 2011, 01:30:21 AM
Also would've loved to get Nightfall, but all her costumes seems to have been claimed already.. :/ Oh well, that's what you get for coming in too late.
Post by: Treefox on September 24, 2011, 12:06:22 PM
Of course, I don't know how Windrider thinks about this, but there is still Nightfall's Original Quest outfit... The other question is how much Nightfall we really need...
But I am sure a Skyfire would be awesome from you, judging from your avatar.
And I also hope you will post your drawings here, too.
Post by: Tevokkia on October 04, 2011, 04:38:09 PM
Post by: Windrider on October 05, 2011, 12:31:29 PM
I am also glad to hear that a few artists here (at least) are working diligently on their pinups. I wish I could say the same about my own, since I seem to be so busy with real life stuff. Got some pencils I really like, but that's as far as I've gotten as of yet. I've also got the self-printable calendar layouts in the preliminary stages.
We are already up to 21 entries submissions, which is often the total number of entries during a normal year. And we still have two months to go!
Post by: Treefox on October 06, 2011, 11:58:28 AM
I myself haven't been doing anything lately, because I'm seriously sick. Getting better but still... it's frustrating.
Post by: branchscamper on October 08, 2011, 01:09:41 AM
Post by: Treefox on October 09, 2011, 10:46:29 AM
I am definitely going to pick up my pens from tomorrow and maybe at least can ink the first Vaya pic.
Post by: Windrider on October 11, 2011, 01:34:18 PM
PM me to let me know how you are doing, if you need help, if you'd like taking a different character, etc.
Those who are interested in picking up more characters, keep an eye on the master list since more characters may suddenly become available if artists find Real Life hasn't given them much time (like me, who do I ask for help? Foxeye! ;) )
Post by: Multimedea on October 11, 2011, 02:11:03 PM
My problem is that I saved my cg program from my main pc to a flash drive so that could use it with my laptop after I moved. I tested it out and everything before I left and it was loading up and working fine. But now that I'm in AZ, it's saying it can't find the release key and it's acting like it's a trial version of the program. No saving, no printing, no fancy stuff. I do have the key boxed up with some art supplies in a care package that my brother should be shipping to me sometime this week, so if I get that, I might be able to finish in time.
I know, some might think the obvious solution is to use Gimp or some PS-type freeware, but I've tried those before and found them to be little more than massive exercises in headache and frustration. I need a more intuitive, painterly-style program. :'(
Post by: silentleaf on October 11, 2011, 02:20:14 PM
Post by: Afke on October 12, 2011, 12:13:48 PM
Post by: Tevokkia on October 12, 2011, 12:21:08 PM
Post by: jaRf on October 12, 2011, 01:20:53 PM
status: fairly ok.
During week it's nasty since I am doing my labwork, then lots of time is eaten by supervising and teaching students, students that decide to start work late and then can't finish in time. Then I receive computers to repair / boost up from colleagues and so on. Other non work related real life stuff so atm it's more the weekends I am doing stuff. But there is progress and I'm hopefully entering the next phase (which might be 60% done, but I am not that good at guessing).
Multimedea
Is that prog known to work as a "mobile" version? You could do that with a static build but most progs today are dynamically linked and want their libs. I guess you're working at a windows system so the registration key might be saved elsewhere and not available on the laptop/stick then. I see 2 options:
a) try to re-enter registration data. Of course that might not work if the program has online activation and allows only one installation.
b) try to find the keyfile. There are several places to look for it. It could also be stored in the endless depths of Windows registry.
You might e.g. check directories in
/Documents and Settings/username/Application Data/... something there for a keyfile.
also ~/../local settings/... might yield results.
Names might be different since I only know W3.11, W95, 98 and NT 5.1 (XP) in non-English versions. Also some dirs could be hidden.
If it is a Mac I can only guess from the Unixish architecture that files are probably in ~ (/home/username/) and there probably in a dot-directory. Might also have something like /etc but I don't know much about mac softwaresides. And /etc normally doesn't carry information like license keys.
Oh, method c)
Get your real box set up and running and use it in your new home. :)
Post by: Faerydae on October 16, 2011, 12:48:56 AM
Post by: Czarine on October 16, 2011, 02:07:33 PM
Post by: Icebird on October 16, 2011, 04:20:49 PM
Post by: Foxeye on October 19, 2011, 09:31:19 AM
Ember and Teir...it will depend on how my time and standards intersect, since I want them to be more carefully done than my usual "rough and rushed" brushstrokes.
Post by: Startear on October 19, 2011, 11:16:46 AM
Minyah was more or less done, but my mother decided to tidy up everything which was after her word, junk. (Gee, thanks a lot.) So not only was my finished product thrown in the bin, but the sketches of how to set it and such. I tried to rescue them, but alas they were drenched in coffee. :argh
Bowki has given me a lot of trouble from the start, I have a hard time figuring out in character poses.
Greenz is still in sketching phase. I have to see if my scanner can accept skin coloring with the copics I'm getting. I've tried tweaking the image in photoshop, but my skin colors won't show with my color pencils.
As for what is really making everything looking dark, I got word on when my exam is, and it is not only three weeks earlier than anticipated but on the same day as the due date for the calendar. :( I'll try to get them done in time, but they may have to be pushed aside.
Post by: Windrider on October 19, 2011, 03:11:20 PM
Thanks to all of you who responded with your "status report." Looks like almost everyone is on track (I find it funny that it looks like Foxeye and I are the two who are in difficulties). I'll probably have Foxeye send out a site-wide email the first of November to remind those who don't visit regularly. Those who have responded already may ignore that email.
I'd like to encourage those who are having troubles to think about collaborating with another artist here. We already have some entries where one artist draws and another colors, and I have been helping quite a few get their layouts pieced together effectively. Now, we don't want you posting your preliminary art for EVERYONE to see, but getting help from each other privately is a good way to go!
Post by: Treefox on October 20, 2011, 11:29:51 AM
Windrider, thanks again for the help on the Vaya layout! It's so great that you still find the time to support us!
Post by: silentleaf on October 20, 2011, 11:41:09 AM
Post by: Eregyrn on October 20, 2011, 11:45:00 AM
You may not have a lightbox, but you can kind of fake one by various methods.
For one thing, there's the old "put the paper on a window when there is bright daylight / sunlight outside" trick.
For another, you may be able to use your computer screen as a lightbox -- create a blank white document that's pretty much as big as the entire screen.
Good luck!
Post by: jaRf on October 22, 2011, 02:31:13 AM
If it is lines, then you might still be able to save them also by use of a scanner and adjustung levels (white black) in a way that the coffee stain vanish as white vaule while the darker lines stay (black). Also crumples can be reduced by this.
Slowly but progressing on my side. Much RL business but at least weekends and a few selected evenings leave me enough time and energy (!) to work on it.
edit: Windrider you might expect my email on Sunday or Monday hopefully.
Post by: Tevokkia on October 25, 2011, 09:24:14 AM
I have both of their portraits done, the inks for Zarhan's pinup and most of Willowgreen's action ... and everything else is in pencil lines. If I don't finish them by the deadline, I'll post the portraits, at least.
Post by: Rosalie on November 04, 2011, 12:15:56 AM
I haven't started drawing yet, but I have a couple of days off from work in 2 weeks so I think (I hope) I can make the deadline...
Post by: Kitt on November 04, 2011, 06:42:07 PM
Post by: Icebird on November 05, 2011, 12:16:44 AM
Post by: Windrider on November 05, 2011, 06:17:37 PM
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I would like to give Kahvi back, and take Deir. I saw that no one has picked him yet, and at least 3 people are drawing Kahvi already, so the chance that she will be in the calendar is pretty great. And I think that the high ones should be in the calendar as well.
I haven't started drawing yet, but I have a couple of days off from work in 2 weeks so I think (I hope) I can make the deadline...
Well, Rosalie, you are one of the three drawing Kahvi and you ALWAYS draw Kahvi for the calendar. She is a major character so it would be okay to have three drawings of her in the calendar. Why don't you draw Deir before Kahvi and then draw Kahvi too if you have time?
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I have finished Wild Hunt era Krim and will be inking and colouring KotBW Venka this weekend... so I was wondering if I may snatch up "Going-back" Chot, too?
You like the Go-backs, eh? Sure, I'll put you on the list for fur-clad Chot. Chot is such a funny character, it will be a challenge for to come up with something that will fit that comic relief aspect he has in the stories.
Post by: Startear on November 06, 2011, 11:31:39 AM
I have finished Wild Hunt era Krim and will be inking and colouring KotBW Venka this weekend... so I was wondering if I may snatch up "Going-back" Chot, too? ;D
:popcorn
Post by: Emberra on November 06, 2011, 03:03:55 PM
I finished my other things I've owed, and the little art project I started a while ago, so I should be good to go. I'm also not going to college anymore so that should give me some more time to work on it.
I've got the line art for Tyleet roughed out, and I've got a few ideas for Dart and Reef. Shouldn't be long until they are ready. I should be good for the deadline. ^^
Post by: joselle on November 06, 2011, 06:32:00 PM
sheesh.
Post by: Windrider on November 06, 2011, 07:56:26 PM
I tend to think that the "sexy" pose is more about attitude than about total nakedness. I mean, Wendy has Bearclaw actually wearing *pants* in her pinup calendar! Of course, you have nothing to complain about when you consider that Wendy also drew Timmain for that calendar, whose usual wardrobe is nothing but her own hair. Can't get any more naked than that.
Post by: Startear on November 07, 2011, 04:58:45 AM
Post by: Eregyrn on November 07, 2011, 10:19:41 AM
I tend to think that the "sexy" pose is more about attitude than about total nakedness. I mean, Wendy has Bearclaw actually wearing *pants* in her pinup calendar! Of course, you have nothing to complain about when you consider that Wendy also drew Timmain for that calendar, whose usual wardrobe is nothing but her own hair. Can't get any more naked than that.
Yeah, this has totally been on my mind, as well. Nightfall also wears her trousers. ;) And a number of others aren't completely naked, but just stripped-down a bit.
Post by: joselle on November 07, 2011, 11:43:17 AM
There's a lot of butt-crack in my drawings.... :D
Post by: Icebird on November 07, 2011, 12:23:51 PM
There's a lot of butt-crack in my drawings.... :D
Who's complaining? 8D By the way, would it be alright to draw the pinup pose with the back towards the viewer or at a 3/4 angle or similar? Venka's being awfully bashful and will rather show me her butt-crack instead of her front-rack *doh*
...yeah.
On another note, I remember someone mentioning something about the possibility of the finished calendar being published in actual planner format - is there any word on that or will it be the usual
Post by: Foxeye on November 07, 2011, 12:31:51 PM
:jam :woohoo :jam
Windrider knows of why I do the victory dance (or she will when she next checks her inbox).
Post by: Foxeye on November 07, 2011, 12:33:14 PM
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I remember someone mentioning something about the possibility of the finished calendar being published in actual planner format
I'm waiting for Richard's say in this...whether he'll either help us with this end of things, or whether he'll give us permission to do it himself. I'll nudge his inbox again. :)
Post by: Windrider on November 07, 2011, 12:39:06 PM
Butt cracks and elf bums are just fine. Front view, side view, back view - doesn't matter. The more variety the better. It would be boring if y'all used the same sexy pose.
Yeah, I drew Savah from the back (if I ever getting around to putting paint on that drawing) because it just didn't seem true to character for her to do a blatantly sexy pose, it needed to be more subtle for her.
Post by: Treefox on November 07, 2011, 01:05:08 PM
I also want to add a :beer which I am going to have now for finishing the last one.
I think I did it!!! :hyper
Post by: silentleaf on November 07, 2011, 01:37:14 PM
Post by: Eregyrn on November 07, 2011, 01:45:34 PM
By the way, would it be alright to draw the pinup pose with the back towards the viewer or at a 3/4 angle or similar? Venka's being awfully bashful and will rather show me her butt-crack instead of her front-rack *doh*
I have to say that sometimes, my favorite "sexy" pictures are that back view with a look over the shoulder. That is VERY SEXY. (I have always thought that the interplay between the curve of the small of the back, down into the butt, is really, REALLY nice, on both men and women.) So I fully support the idea of that for the calendar! (I was kind of considering using it for one of my pieces as well, although I'm not decided on it.)
Post by: Foxeye on November 07, 2011, 01:48:08 PM
Post by: Wildfire on November 07, 2011, 02:49:58 PM
Post by: Kitt on November 08, 2011, 05:28:48 PM
...by the way, does anyone know if WOLFRIDER was ever colored? I need to get a few color swatches. Otherwise, I'll have to get them as best I can from another source.
Post by: Icebird on November 09, 2011, 12:40:08 AM
Post by: Startear on November 09, 2011, 02:06:51 AM
Post by: Kitt on November 09, 2011, 04:26:17 AM
Post by: Tevokkia on November 09, 2011, 04:54:11 AM
... seriously, if I can't manage to get the thing right over the weekend, I'm putting a plant there and moving on. >:( I'd really like to finish both her and Zarhan, and maybe even take a stab at Ikopek if I'm ahead of the game.
Post by: silentleaf on November 09, 2011, 09:22:27 AM
Post by: joselle on November 09, 2011, 12:23:09 PM
Post by: Windrider on November 09, 2011, 01:29:16 PM
Just want to give everyone a heads up; with the deadline in less than a month, we are probably going to get a number of characters whose artists find they can't draw them. I mention this because I know there are artists here who really like Rain and right now he's just become available.
Post by: Wildfire on November 09, 2011, 02:50:11 PM
Post by: Windrider on November 09, 2011, 04:55:13 PM
Post by: Treefox on November 10, 2011, 12:53:45 AM
If only work wasn't so darn busy at the moment!
Post by: nilla on November 10, 2011, 07:06:46 AM
Post by: Wildfire on November 10, 2011, 02:49:34 PM
Anyway, I'll give him another shot. If it doesn't work out I'll let you know ;)
Post by: Mirror on November 11, 2011, 07:39:29 AM
As for the others... argh.
Let me just say that Venka doesn't have a nose anymore.
And Tanner looks high.
But. I. SHALL. get. there.
Post by: Emberra on November 12, 2011, 02:02:17 PM
So far I've finished Reef, Tyleet is still in the rough stages, and Dart hasn't even been started yet. Though chances are Dart is gonna get done before Tyleet because she was in rough last week too.
Post by: Icebird on November 13, 2011, 04:17:51 AM
I've sketched out Chot's (Going Back arc) portrait and action pose. About to start work on his pinup, then all three pieces will be ready for inking and then colouring :D
Post by: Kitt on November 13, 2011, 05:14:29 AM
Post by: Icebird on November 13, 2011, 05:43:27 AM
...one question though. Now I've drawn two lady pinups but I wonder about doing a male one. Underwear is a given when the front is visible but could that, eh, be "fitted" underwear or should it be a more loose loincloth type of thing?
At the moment Chot is wearing something like the Go-Backs wore in the ritual dance at the bottom of this page (http://elfquest.com/comic_viewer.php?fd=/gallery/OnlineComics/OQ/OQ16/_Original%20ElfQuest%20-%2016_page=1#_28#) (sans the fur parts) and he would very much like to keep it because he thinks it fits him perfectly.
Yah. You're such a ladies' man, Chot. ::)
I seem to remember it being said somewhere that if it's seen in the comics then it's OK, but I just want to make sure before I ink it ;D
Post by: Maggie on November 13, 2011, 12:17:08 PM
Post by: Treefox on November 13, 2011, 12:17:45 PM
Wendy surely made up some wonderful cultures.
Post by: Windrider on November 14, 2011, 12:25:21 PM
Sheesh, the kinds of discussions this calendar is spawning... elf buns and butt cracks and underwear.
Post by: Startear on November 14, 2011, 01:23:41 PM
Post by: Icebird on November 14, 2011, 02:20:50 PM
I like the fur tim underwear in that linked picture. You sure you can't give his form fitting undies a little fluffy trim?
I actually already did because I thought it would be more fun to dress him up (down?) in the canon underwear - so there is now an aesthetically pleasing fur trim on his undies ;D
Post by: Eregyrn on November 14, 2011, 04:06:15 PM
Post by: Foxeye on November 15, 2011, 10:21:59 AM
Post by: Treefox on November 15, 2011, 12:13:52 PM
I am already amazed at all the artwork that was produced for this project.
Post by: Windrider on November 15, 2011, 01:20:30 PM
We are easily going to make it to a one year calendar, since quite a number of our major past calendar contributors tell me they have many images nearly done and ready to send.
What looks like it might happen is that we may get stuck with around 20 to go to make it a two year calendar. Or maybe not. I am a bit worried because some of the newbies to this site logged in to sign up, but we haven't heard any progress reports from them. However, they may come through at the last minute - which is totally the norm for the fan calendar. Every year about this time I think we won't have enough for even a 12 month calendar and we've never had a problem. And look! This year we already have 50 entries!
Post by: jaRf on November 15, 2011, 01:34:57 PM
It's a fact that I need a little bit of inspiration, muse and relaxedness to do creative work, do art and this normally hardly happens at my current workload.
Also I am frightened sometimes just to start cause I... don't know. But sometimes the start and the finish are the hardest parts for me. In the middle thing sometimes flow.
So I took a day off, for household but also EQ stuff. Hope to get my stuff finished soon.
Post by: Jeedai on November 15, 2011, 06:22:38 PM
Nilla's part of our joint project for this (Jink in issue number #1 cover outfit) is done. I'm a little behind on my part (vector-inking and dressing her sketches)...
Headshot: DONE (including revisions suggested by members of this site)
Action Pose (actually reclining): Very nearly done
Sexy pose: Figure done except for arms, sexy flowing wrap not started yet.
I will continue grinding away at this and expect to make deadline, but doesnt look like it'll make it into the year-long calendar... (EDIT:) If there are just two more slots to fill.
Post by: Windrider on November 16, 2011, 12:06:56 AM
http://DistortedSmile.deviantart.com/journal/Project-Educate-Origins-of-Pinup-and-Glamour-269015961 (http://DistortedSmile.deviantart.com/journal/Project-Educate-Origins-of-Pinup-and-Glamour-269015961)
The Origins of Pinup and Glamour. How timely for us!
Post by: Mirror on November 16, 2011, 08:37:03 AM
Draw, draw- all newbies - I command you all! ;D
As for me, I'm constantly switching between "OMG I've taken on too many characters" and "OMG, let me take on more!"... (Relax, Windrider, I won't be bombarding you with more PM's...just sharing my confused state of mind! ;) )
Post by: silentleaf on November 16, 2011, 08:52:16 AM
Post by: Mirror on November 16, 2011, 09:01:08 AM
atleast it sounds like your action pose has some action in it. Most of my characters just want to sit and look randomly into the air. :P
Post by: silentleaf on November 16, 2011, 09:57:43 AM
Post by: Windrider on November 16, 2011, 11:04:53 AM
Now comes the big push to get enough for year two (of course, they won't be spilt up that way, but you know what I mean). If I total all the entries I know are in the works from Joselle, Mirror, Eregyrn, etc... that is about 35-40 more entries. And that's not counting entries I am pretty sure are in the works, but the artist hasn't said anything directly. I think we are going to do it! :jam
Post by: Icebird on November 16, 2011, 11:14:08 AM
Post by: Treefox on November 16, 2011, 12:19:57 PM
Wheee, I actually started coloring ssssexy Rain! So drawn all three poses, inked all three poses and now starting to color! That's not bad!
I can hardly describe how I am looking forward to get up early on January 1st, make me a nice cup of coffee and oogle, feel joy and comment on everything the whole day! :coffee
Edit: And I also noticed that Woodlock really looks a lot like Rain. Eyes, face shape, even hair shape a little bit. Is Wendy sure that Rainsong is really Rain's daughter?
Post by: Startear on November 16, 2011, 01:30:00 PM
Post by: Afke on November 16, 2011, 02:29:14 PM
That said, I still have my eye on a few interesting chars, but I really wanna finish the 2 I'm still working on first. Picknose is ready to be colored, Olbar's portrait was actually already done the 1st week... (I was actually so happy with how it turned out that I was afraid to start on the rest and ruin it) but I've finally decided on the pin-up pose, sketched it.
Post by: Wildfire on November 16, 2011, 03:01:44 PM
I'm also among the "would take on more characters" to finish the second year. ^____^
Post by: nilla on November 16, 2011, 03:29:16 PM
And Haken is still not cooperating, but darnit I WILL finish his piece!Try telling him he's going to Recognize Timmain as punishment if he continues to hinder your work. :lol
Post by: joselle on November 16, 2011, 05:16:53 PM
Post by: Treefox on November 17, 2011, 02:58:50 AM
Post by: Czarine on November 17, 2011, 10:51:08 AM
Post by: nilla on November 19, 2011, 05:46:43 AM
Bahahaha! The only action pose I'd been able to think up for her at the time would be her trying drag up a man into a tree. :lol
Action Pose (actually reclining): Very nearly done.
Sad to say, but she never did made a good first impression on me.
Post by: Kitt on November 19, 2011, 09:26:39 AM
Post by: Kitt on November 19, 2011, 03:45:01 PM
Post by: joselle on November 19, 2011, 05:08:51 PM
Post by: Foxeye on November 19, 2011, 05:30:50 PM
Post by: Kitt on November 19, 2011, 06:15:45 PM
Post by: Jeedai on November 19, 2011, 07:38:41 PM
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Bahahaha! The only action pose I'd been able to think up for her at the time would be her trying drag up a man into tree.Yeah, going by the expressions on the faces Nilla drew, the "sexy" pose is the one with clothes on. :lol
Post by: Eregyrn on November 19, 2011, 08:24:07 PM
Actually, I have a quick question. I've seen Joyleaf's hair colored two ways, one where it's like Cutter's wheat blonde and then where it's like sunshine yellow blonde. Which is the...er...correct way to represent her hair color? Both instances of color change I've seen have been official WaRP colorings so...I'm not entirely sure which way I should go with this.
Out of curiosity, which was the official WaRP coloring that featured a color more like Cutter's? I can't remember ever seeing that on Joyleaf. My impression was always that her hair was the same color as Treestump's and Dewshine's (all in the family).
Post by: Kitt on November 20, 2011, 02:16:36 PM
Quote from: Eregyrn
Out of curiosity, which was the official WaRP coloring that featured a color more like Cutter's? I can't remember ever seeing that on Joyleaf. My impression was always that her hair was the same color as Treestump's and Dewshine's (all in the family).
*searches* ...this one:
http://joyleaf_22.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/pini_back25.jpg (http://joyleaf_22.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/pini_back25.jpg)
Post by: joselle on November 20, 2011, 04:24:06 PM
Post by: Obi-Rak Kaeliri on November 20, 2011, 04:30:15 PM
Post by: Eregyrn on November 20, 2011, 05:34:50 PM
Also, other examples of Joyleaf art from that same year, colored by Wendy, show much more yellow hair -- such as the back cover of OQ #4. I'm not sure in precisely what year Wendy painted colored the comics for the first OQ graphic novel collection, I think it was a year or two later, but that back-cover was colored contemporaneously with the pastel portraits collection. So it seems to show that Wendy didn't necessarily intend Joyleaf to have Cutter-colored hair originally and just changed her mind later.
Post by: joselle on November 20, 2011, 09:27:56 PM
Post by: Kitt on November 21, 2011, 03:32:03 AM
Post by: Mournsong on November 21, 2011, 03:40:00 AM
Post by: Treefox on November 21, 2011, 04:36:38 AM
Post by: Mournsong on November 21, 2011, 05:08:58 AM
Post by: Kitt on November 21, 2011, 09:48:50 AM
Post by: Icebird on November 21, 2011, 10:47:29 AM
I need to colour in his shirt in the action pose and the headband in the pinup - portrait is inked and ready for colours as well. I meant to have them all done yesterday but a sore throat surprise attack messed me up too bad to draw. I'll be done today or tomorrow ;D
Post by: Kitt on November 21, 2011, 11:18:21 AM
Post by: Treefox on November 22, 2011, 06:04:58 AM
Post by: Windrider on November 22, 2011, 10:54:43 AM
However, since we won't need time for judging this year, if you need more time just let me know. If you can send a "work in progress" image that would also be a big help, since that way I'll know the "feel" of your piece and can use the WIP as a place-holder during my calendar formatting. This is a HUGE formatting job, guys, so help me out!
If anyone has a Facebook account, can you post a reminder about the deadline there? A lot of our newbies learned about the calendar there and haven't been back here much since signing up. (Foxeye and I think FB is the Dark Side and are no use there).
Post by: joselle on November 22, 2011, 12:05:48 PM
Post by: Startear on November 22, 2011, 02:02:34 PM
Post by: Tevokkia on November 22, 2011, 05:18:58 PM
Post by: Maggie on November 22, 2011, 05:45:42 PM
Post by: Treefox on November 22, 2011, 11:44:51 PM
Good work!
Post by: Kitt on November 23, 2011, 06:07:02 AM
Post by: jaRf on November 23, 2011, 08:42:26 AM
Post by: Kitt on November 23, 2011, 08:48:14 AM
Post by: Windrider on November 23, 2011, 09:13:27 AM
Quote from: Kitt
What's the Facebook account name where I can find you guys?We just need to get the deadline reminder out to those who only access the EQ fandom through Facebook. Foxeye asked Richard, but I think the deadline will pass before he gets to it. So those of you with Facebook accounts, just get a topic on the the wall of the official EQ Facebook page:
http://www.facebook.com/elfquest (http://www.facebook.com/elfquest)
Quote from: Treefox
I was so hoping that Ekuar would make it into the calendar!Maggie did an outstanding job with one of my favorite characters. I think her Ekuar "pinup" is the most surprising and insightful entry we've got so far - a real stand-out.
Good work!
Oh, and I just have to add how awesome it is to see all those entries in the gallery! It is so neat how they look like a unified project but are all so different.
Post by: Mirror on November 23, 2011, 10:10:02 AM
FINALLY!
Edit: Afke - you beat me to the posting on Facebook ;)
Post by: Afke on November 23, 2011, 10:29:45 AM
Post by: silentleaf on November 23, 2011, 03:39:25 PM
Post by: Mirror on November 23, 2011, 05:48:53 PM
Post by: Tevokkia on November 23, 2011, 06:16:52 PM
@Silentleaf: skimming your last post, I got the impression you were drawing cutter in a pumpkin. Like, popping out of a giant pumpkin. That would be very...halloween-ish. And weird. And possibly very cool.
I just got a mental image of a Chippendale/Wolfrider version of a stripper jumping out of a cake.
Post by: Windrider on November 23, 2011, 06:18:14 PM
Thanks for the Facebook post, Afke. Now can someone tell "Ginger Wood" that they need to read the guidelines if they want to participate and be assigned a character. They seem to think that a character is up for grabs if there is no DONE by the name, and don't seem to realize that we've got a ton of artists working frantically to get that DONE put there before Dec 1st!
And yes, I do check EQ Facebook now and then, but I can't post without an account.
Post by: Tevokkia on November 23, 2011, 08:29:17 PM
Post by: Wildfire on November 24, 2011, 03:21:12 AM
Post by: Windrider on November 24, 2011, 11:23:02 AM
Oh, and we are past 60 done entries now! 42 to go for the second year! I've got Skywise almost done and Aurek is getting there, too. However, I will likely be drawing Savah in December while I am formatting the calendar - one of the perks of being the organizer. ;)
Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!
Post by: Foxeye on November 24, 2011, 11:40:28 AM
I finally managed to make some solid progress on Teir last night, and have a 4-day weekend ahead of me, so there's hope!
Post by: Jeedai on November 24, 2011, 03:33:48 PM
PMing a placemarker image now.
What's that about no Petalwing :o? If the drawings are done I'd be happy to color it.
Post by: branchscamper on November 24, 2011, 04:16:34 PM
Happy Thanksgiving to those in the States!
Post by: Mirror on November 25, 2011, 05:38:48 AM
I'm spending the day colouring LongFin and Dodia and should have those set to send in. OT at work and a car accident sent me far behind :( I'm not sure I'll have Tyleet ready. I really wanted to have her done, but I've become very self conscious of drawing her after seeing some amazing pictures others have done. I doubt I will do her justice as the others have :-[
:( I was looking foreward to seing your version of Tyleet :( I've always loved the Venka-Kahvi-Vaya piece you did for another calender.
And...car accident?? Hope you're all right!
Post by: Windrider on November 25, 2011, 08:42:36 AM
Quote from: Foxeye
Giving up on poor Petalwing, eh? :lolWell, let's just say that Petalwing is the lowest priority of my characters, the rest who are major characters and must be in the calendar. Well, Petalwing is a major character in its own right, but not one you would expect for a pin-up! :lol It started off as a funny idea for the April Fools day slot. Might still get to it, but I got a surprise visit from my sister and family this Thanksgiving weekend when I was expecting to be able to paint.
Quote from: Jeedai
What's that about no Petalwing ? If the drawings are done I'd be happy to color it.Well, that was part of the joke - the only thing sexy about it was how it was going to be painted. But the sketches are still pretty rough and not ready for color. Thanks anyway!
Post by: Startear on November 25, 2011, 08:45:02 AM
Post by: Mirror on November 25, 2011, 10:24:26 AM
I'm really close to drawing zombie elves again. I mean, for real this time. :-\
I still kinda like the idea of Zombie elves ;)
Seriously though: if you want, I'd be more than happy to do do some C/C. I've had to ask Foxeye for that myself, it realy helps to get some fresh input!
Just send me a PM :)
Post by: joselle on November 25, 2011, 03:42:09 PM
Post by: Eregyrn on November 25, 2011, 05:41:42 PM
I'm in the sketch phase of almost all the various bits. Have been doing that rather than taking each one all the way through done. Inking soon, but trying to finish up sketches tonight.
Hating my layouts. (Have been doing test composites.) (Why did they work so much better in the thumbnail layout sketches?)
Post by: branchscamper on November 25, 2011, 11:45:02 PM
:( I was looking foreward to seing your version of Tyleet :( I've always loved the Venka-Kahvi-Vaya piece you did for another calender.
Thank you so much for your kind words about my art piece. I noticed the date today and it's not too bad even with the looming end of the month so I may try to crack out the Tyleet picture. It was actually one of yours that had me biting my nails over drawing her, Mirror! I was whining to my sis and she was all like "right, show me the pieces" and when I did she was "wow" XD;; Your work is inspirational to me even as it makes me self conscious XD
I'm really looking forward to seeing everyone's art! This has been really exciting!
Post by: Faerydae on November 26, 2011, 10:20:25 PM
I can't make this deadline - I barely started painting when I hit the hospital for the first run.
I have no idea if there are any extensions available, but if not, I'll need to sadly drop out as there is just no way I can do them both in three days. :(
I am so sorry, I kept hoping my health would get better in the nick of time but that didn't seem to work out for me.
Post by: jaRf on November 27, 2011, 12:35:26 AM
Post by: windbourne on November 27, 2011, 09:00:05 AM
It's terribly frustrating when you're having one of those Just Can't Draw moments and it's one of your favorite characters. ...:(
Long story short, I'm hashing away, and hoping to make the deadline. ^^;;
Post by: Windrider on November 27, 2011, 09:10:12 AM
If you want, send me a WIP of Skywise and I can help you see why he isn't looking like himself. I find Skywise to be the easiest EQ character to draw of all of them, but because his facial design is so simple if even one thing is a little out of place, he ends up not looking like himself.
Oh, and everyone: my email address appears in my profile. That is where you are sending your entries. You can still PM me, of course, if you want. ;)
Post by: Icebird on November 27, 2011, 10:55:06 AM
Post by: Tevokkia on November 27, 2011, 05:28:12 PM
Post by: Jeedai on November 27, 2011, 09:59:02 PM
I just sent in a draft of the combined image.
Post by: Rosalie on November 27, 2011, 11:00:08 PM
I'll try to make time for Kahvi, but with a fulltime job that will be challenging...
Post by: Windrider on November 28, 2011, 09:46:10 AM
In addition to marking the list with a DONE, now that the deadline is so close I will also mark the ones IN PROGRESS. That way I can get a better idea of which characters are going to need some last minute love by a quick-working artist (heh... not me!)
Edit: Okay added the IN PROGRESS and we will have plenty to fill the second year! We rock! :jam
Now, just because we have enough with the already done and WIPs, don't stop drawing just because I don't have you in either category! We are including everyone. One of the things Foxeye and I are talking about is that with the publisher we are likely to use, we are going to have to create our own calendar grid pages. If we have to do that, well heck, we are including images on those too!
Now if everyone draws the characters they say they will, then there will be more than enough for three years. :faint
I may not get a 2014 calendar formatted before the end of this year, but it would be a possibility to save that group of entries and have it come out a little later in 2012 (may have to do that with the 2013 one, too).
Post by: Startear on November 28, 2011, 10:16:32 AM
As for poor little Bowki, I might need to call that one off. no matter what i do, it ends looking like Jethel. A young Jethel. >:(
Post by: Foxeye on November 28, 2011, 10:38:35 AM
Post by: Eregyrn on November 28, 2011, 11:39:20 AM
You can also mark IN PROGRESS the three down for Celticgriffen - older Bearclaw, Flam, and Lehrigen. I've seen the inks for those, and I expect she will either have them done by the deadline, or very soon after. (I told her to get in touch with you.)
Post by: Windrider on November 28, 2011, 11:41:49 AM
How's about I format the 2012 as soon as possible (we have plenty of art already) and we can put it up for sale as soon as Richard gives the okay. Then say, about mid January I can put up a 2013 and a little later a 2014? That would give an opportunity for those are are really ill now (I've had PMs about members in the hospital), or have other Real Life problems to participate in at least the 2014 calendar.
An added advantage of this is we can see what the publisher's quality is for the 2012 calendar and maybe do a change if necessary for later years.
The disadvantage of this is a change in plans for how I am assigning the art to the weeks. I was going to split the artists into "Team Windrider" and "Team Foxeye" so that all the entries from one artist are in the same calendar. This was so that people who could only afford one calendar could buy the one that they are in. We were going to offer both calendars as 2012 and then again in 2013, so you could buy whichever you like the first or second year.
While a nice idea, this is causing major headaches for me anyway. Now what I think I'm going to do it is that if you submitted three entries, you'll have one in each calendar. Those with six, two in each calendar. If we are running short for 2014, some artists can submit more work in February. All the characters will certainly get some love that way.
What do you all think?
Post by: Mirror on November 28, 2011, 01:27:00 PM
@Windrider: If that means we get to see the 2012-calendar ASAP, I'm all for it :D
My impatience aside, and on a more serious note: Seems like a good idea to me. If we're running short of entries for the 2014-calendar , I'm sure a lot of artists will step in to fill the slots, especially if submissions are open until february. We can repost the message regularly on facebook and the EQ forums to get the attention of new artists, too. Once the first calendar is published, I suppose even more new artists will want to participate.
Basically, though, it all boils down to what's easier for you guys organizing it all.
Post by: Tevokkia on November 28, 2011, 03:02:59 PM
My final two are IN PROGRESS ... still finishing up the inks on the two pinups, and have finalized the pose for Zarhan's full-body. Admittedly, it's a bit more incentive for me to finish him, knowing that he will likely be in a different calendar from the other artist's rendition of him, as it seemed a bit silly for such a little-seen character to snag two pages in the same year.
If I don't have WIPs to you tonight, I'll have them tomorrow.
Post by: Eregyrn on November 28, 2011, 04:19:34 PM
I also think that if the deadline is extended into next year for the 2014 calendar, we'll have no trouble coming up with enough art to fill that one.
One question -- is all of the art going to be made visible in a gallery from the start? Or is the art that will be used in the 2013 and 2014 calendars going to be "held" until a later reveal?
Post by: joselle on November 28, 2011, 06:31:05 PM
Post by: branchscamper on November 28, 2011, 09:31:50 PM
However you guys want to do the calendar to make it look awesome and with minimum headaches I'm cool with it. I kinda would love to see all this art before 2014, but if we have to keep it hidden then we do. I would be up to providing more art if needed :)
Post by: Eregyrn on November 28, 2011, 09:43:35 PM
Post by: Finnguala on November 29, 2011, 12:55:46 AM
Post by: Afke on November 29, 2011, 03:50:26 AM
I've actually made a list for myself of possible characters I want to do if more pictures are needed, so if for a 2014 calendar we get an extra month or perhaps 2, then I know who I'll draw. ;)
Post by: Treefox on November 29, 2011, 04:23:06 AM
While I like the general idea of having a calendar for three years, I really think it would be better not to hold the art for the later calendars back.
In three years lots of interests change and maybe the later ones would just sell much less than the first one. Then the art wouldn't get any recognition and that would be a shame.
Also, it would be nice to get the chance to also print our own versions of the calendar and maybe choose a combination of characters we like best. I'd like to have the choice among all (or most of) the pictures to additionally make a calendar for my wall.
Aaaand I am so,so, so curious to see all the pictures that were announced, discussed hinted at here!
Post by: Wildfire on November 29, 2011, 08:28:33 AM
I WILL finish Scouter though, he's almost done. I'll borrow my parents computer or somesuch for that.
Post by: Foxeye on November 29, 2011, 10:07:11 AM
In related news, Richard has given his blessing for this to be a fan-published project. :woohoo
Post by: Eregyrn on November 29, 2011, 10:23:03 AM
Yeah, I have no problem holding back the art for the subsequent calendars if it's for a short-ish time. For example, if you guys want to extend the final deadline for art for the 2014 one to end of Feb, and hold back other art that will go into it until all the art for 2014 is ready, I could see doing that.
It's just that my gut reaction is that part of what's so super-impressive about this whole undertaking is the massive amount of art prepared for it, and I'm really quite looking forward to being able to bask in that BIG gallery. :)
(Not that 53 pieces or whatever number will be in just the 2012 set won't be pretty darned impressive on its own.)
Post by: Windrider on November 29, 2011, 10:25:54 AM
So what I want to do:
2012 comes out early, as soon as we can, maybe somewhere around Dec 10-15, 2011. We make those entries public.
2013 comes out around early January, 2012. We make those entries public.
2014 comes out around mid/late January, 2012. We make those entries public.
Of course, we'd have all three calendars for sale throughout 2012, but maybe drop 2012 in Jan 2013, and drop 2013 in Jan of 2014.
Post by: Windrider on November 29, 2011, 10:27:00 AM
Post by: joselle on November 29, 2011, 10:33:53 AM
Post by: Afke on November 29, 2011, 11:13:10 AM
Post by: Mirror on November 29, 2011, 11:42:03 AM
Post by: Eregyrn on November 29, 2011, 11:43:19 AM
It will also be kind of fun to stagger the reveals that way -- it won't make us wait horribly long, but will build a sense of anticipation towards the later sets.
Post by: Icebird on November 29, 2011, 11:50:46 AM
Post by: Treefox on November 29, 2011, 12:24:37 PM
Post by: silentleaf on November 29, 2011, 12:49:50 PM
Post by: branchscamper on November 29, 2011, 01:44:46 PM
I'm so glad we can see the art w/out waiting years!
I just sent in LongFin and am finishing fixing up Dodia. It's taking me a lot longer than I expected. Oh well...And I'm halfway through sketching out Tyleet!
Post by: Tevokkia on November 29, 2011, 02:07:36 PM
Post by: Windrider on November 29, 2011, 03:35:49 PM
Each of the three calendar should have:
2-3 Gliders
7 Go-Backs (1 Kahvi in each)
6 Wavedancers
2 Trolls
3 Humans
3 High Ones
There is a similar list going with how many "Joselles" and "Mirrors" etc. each calendar should have. Getting this to mesh with the tribe list, plus not having more than one of each character in each calendar (except when the character has been drawn more than three times) - well, this is like a game of Tetris! :lol
Post by: silentleaf on November 29, 2011, 09:57:57 PM
Post by: Treefox on November 30, 2011, 12:37:30 AM
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Getting this to mesh with the tribe list, plus not having more than one of each character in each calendar (except when the character has been drawn more than three times) - well, this is like a game of Tetris
While I truly don't envy you for having to format this art mountain, that is one game of Tetris I would like to play!
Gosh, I am getting all giddy when thinking about that we'll actually get to see the first batch of art next month!
Post by: celticgriffin on November 30, 2011, 08:46:29 AM
I've finished the last two of my entries (Lehrigen and Madcoil-era Bearclaw), and I'd also be willing to help out with more if more art is needed for the third calendar.
Post by: branchscamper on November 30, 2011, 01:25:56 PM
The thought of 150 new pieces of artwork on this site is mind blowing, but oh so exciting!
Post by: Windrider on December 01, 2011, 09:01:37 AM
Don't despair if you didn't finish by the deadline. I am coming up with a new schedule for 2013 and 2014. This is what I am thinking, but I need to talk it over a little with Foxeye:
2012: Art deadline Dec. 1, publish around Dec. 15-20
2013: Art deadline Dec. 10, publish around Jan. 1-7
2014: Art deadline Dec. 20, publish around Jan 15
I will post when I have a confirmation on these dates and add them to the Guidelines on the first page.
Post by: Startear on December 01, 2011, 09:58:59 AM
Post by: Foxeye on December 01, 2011, 10:01:41 AM
Quote from: Startear
Man, I just saw some of the art! Might have been a glitch. Saw some just fleetingly, and some really well. Branchscamper, I saw Dodia, she was amazing! So was your Bearclaw, Eregyrn.
It was visible for about 20 seconds, so you and Dyara are FAST. :lol
I renamed the calendar album for Windrider and the gallery software assumed that renaming it meant I wanted to make it visible to "Regular Members". :banghead St00pid software.
Post by: Startear on December 01, 2011, 10:05:42 AM
Post by: nilla on December 01, 2011, 10:30:01 AM
when do we get to see it? End of this month?
Post by: Startear on December 01, 2011, 11:03:11 AM
Post by: Treefox on December 01, 2011, 11:55:50 PM
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didn't get much done yesterday since about the time I was going to sit down to work on the calendar, So Cal was experiencing a massive wind storm that knocked out power in my area for quite a while - and had flickering power even after that.
It seems to be pretty bad! Please be careful, Windrider.
Post by: joselle on December 02, 2011, 02:27:17 PM
Post by: Treefox on December 03, 2011, 03:30:55 AM
Post by: Windrider on December 03, 2011, 11:16:37 AM
Please, if you have signed up for some characters but haven't submitted anything yet, PLEASE let me know if you are just late or if you don't plan to submit anything at all. That way I can plan ahead, otherwise it is just frustrating.
If you are still working on three characters and haven't submitted even one yet, concentrate on one and get it to me as soon as you can. I am trying to put one entry from each artist in each calendar and you guys are botching my plans! :gaah
I have reliable power now, at least. And I think I sort of have the pinups for 2012 sorted out. Still need another Human, Wavedancers and High Ones are a bit light, some core Wolfriders are missing, but let me hand it to the Go-Backs. They are nicely balanced in all three calendars and I think everyone but Zey is represented!
Post by: Startear on December 03, 2011, 02:28:31 PM
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They are nicely balanced in all three calendars and I think everyone but Zey is represented!
:'( :'( :'( :'(
Post by: Windrider on December 03, 2011, 04:24:23 PM
Here's another report: I was going to keep this a little secret, but I don't think it will work unless I make it public. Since the calendar planner grids are not pre-made, we hope to include some "bonus" art on the grid pages. Heck, if we have to make them ourselves, we figured why not!
If you have pinups that are having problems... say, only two of the three poses are acceptable to you, don't just give up and not turn them in. Send the acceptable poses to me anyway and they'll be included as bonus art on the grids.
I may be approaching members here to ask if I can use art in their galleries as bonus art. If you want to save me time, you can let me know when you hand in your pin-ups that you would or wouldn't mind me grabbing some of your other art for the calender.
Post by: Treefox on December 04, 2011, 11:29:28 AM
Post by: branchscamper on December 04, 2011, 09:36:11 PM
Tyleet is coming at a plipplop rate but I am determined to meet the Dec 10th deadline. My main problem is that most of the positions I think are great for her I noticed Wendy already has done in her official art ??? So I'm pushing my mind to the limit to come up with something unique. I will do it!
And I am willing to draw more if you need anything :)
I hope everyone is doing well after that crazy wind storm! We were supposed to get some, but it rained and now we're getting record cold temps. It's crazy! I'm actually wearing a sweater *lol*
Post by: Emberra on December 05, 2011, 10:37:14 AM
Post by: Windrider on December 05, 2011, 12:24:02 PM
Even with the promised art, we are still around 12-15 short for 2014. I'm going to give them a couple more days, but if I haven't heard from missing artists by then, I am going to start reassigning characters. I have a quite few of you on standby waiting to draw characters who otherwise would not be in the calendar because their first artists didn't come through for us. Drop me a PM if you want to be on standby.
Post by: Tevokkia on December 06, 2011, 05:08:04 AM
Post by: jaRf on December 06, 2011, 09:44:49 AM
But then Skimback is rather close to being finished and I hope Rayek will do so also. I'll take a free day for it.
Post by: Czarine on December 06, 2011, 01:33:47 PM
...Has anyone else had problems with their character looking so... alluring that they distract you while you're drawing them?? :-X
Post by: silentleaf on December 06, 2011, 05:17:49 PM
Cheers to all
Post by: Windrider on December 06, 2011, 10:16:36 PM
The "untaken" list in reply #3 on this thread has been revised.
I am less concerned if obscure High Ones and Wavedancers have a full pinup, although it would be awesome if someone will draw just sexy poses or portraits of these so they can be at least included in the bonus grid art.
However, we really need someone to draw more major characters like Windkin, Wing, Zey, Krill and, even if he is a challenge, Sun Toucher. Spray and Sefra are also too beautiful not to be drawn. Dart really needs a second artist to draw his early Jackwolfrider stage, especially as Joyrider is not sure she can get her Searcher Dart finished.
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...Has anyone else had problems with their character looking so... alluring that they distract you while you're drawing them??
:lol This reminds me of one of my illustration mentors from my days as an art student. He always said it was a common mistake to draw a figure's eyes too early on in the drawing. Because once the eyes are detailed, the artist inevitably starts to have a relationship with the figure they are drawing, like you are thinking "Oh, I see you and will save you from the paper you are trapped in!" Then you are too invested to just scrap the drawing and start over when it isn't working. Ha ha, Dick was one of the only geniuses I've had the privilege to train under, but he was sure an odd person with ideas that made you go "hmm.."
Post by: jaRf on December 07, 2011, 12:15:13 AM
Things being alluring, yes, of course. Regardless which sex you draw and your "orientation" since you probably aim to make things alluring for a pinup you are supposed to be distracted by your own work. :)
Post by: Afke on December 07, 2011, 02:20:09 AM
Post by: Tevokkia on December 07, 2011, 05:00:16 AM
Post by: Startear on December 07, 2011, 06:50:27 AM
But yeah, i too had problems with alluring with Bowki. Part of it is because of Blair's art... and because I see him as mostly a cute kid. Everytime I started drawing, it either looked like a complete stranger or a little boy.
Post by: Eregyrn on December 07, 2011, 07:28:34 AM
Post by: Jeb on December 07, 2011, 07:51:02 AM
I don't think that's unique to eyes, though. I've often felt that way about a foot, or leg, or hand, and I find myself erasing the rest of the drawing to accommodate that part I like.
Post by: Icebird on December 07, 2011, 11:32:59 AM
I am less concerned if obscure High Ones and Wavedancers have a full pinup, although it would be awesome if someone will draw just sexy poses or portraits of these so they can be at least included in the bonus grid art.
Would these extra pieces require colours as well? I'm thinking I may be able to hit the deadline for the last calendar, but I just can't be sure ???
Post by: Windrider on December 07, 2011, 11:54:46 AM
Post by: branchscamper on December 07, 2011, 03:13:15 PM
I have the rest of the day off so I am going to work on some art =D
Post by: Icebird on December 08, 2011, 10:33:42 PM
The bonus art on the grids may be either B&W or color. Full figure poses should be fairly vertical so they don't take too much of the grid. Portraits with simple or non-existent backgrounds are also nice for this. I've searched the galleries and there aren't many existing High Ones and Waverdancer studies.
In that case I'd like to try help with some portraits - can I snatch Adya for now? ;D
Post by: Startear on December 09, 2011, 02:11:50 PM
Post by: Mirror on December 09, 2011, 06:37:48 PM
I'm with you, Afke. :) I put eye-shapes in early, but often refine them very late in the process; and don't fill in pupils until close to the end of the sketching stage. And yeah, eyebrows are really important to me.
It's really fascinating to learn how you guys work.
When I'm working digitally, I tend to start drawing and defining the eyes quite early - including pupils and highlights.
If I'm working traditionally, though, I usually do like you, Eregyrn - filling in the pupils at a much later point. This applies especially when I'm doing a pencil portrait (something I hardly do anymore :( ) It's a special feeling when you realize that your drawing is suddenly "looking" at you.
On a calendar-note.... I just finished Rillfisher!!! FINALLY! I've been struggeling with her for months. Literally.
Post by: Foxeye on December 09, 2011, 06:48:43 PM
Post by: Mirror on December 09, 2011, 07:54:46 PM
I haaaate drawing eyes. I leave them till the very last, and even then usually rush them. :baghead
:lol Well, it doesn't show!
Come to think of it, that's actually what I do with hands and feet :lol
Post by: jaRf on December 10, 2011, 03:33:42 AM
I haaaate drawing eyes. I leave them till the very last, and even then usually rush them. :baghead
For me eyes are probably the simplest part on a face. Okay, the look at you and they can be the mysterious "windows to the soul" but compared to mouth and especially noses they are the part I like to do about a face.
Also hands and feet are - depending on perspective - a horror for me.
Skimback is in very good progress I guess he can soon considered to be done. Rayek is partially in good shape but then the other 2 3rds of the image are still to be done.
Post by: Treefox on December 10, 2011, 11:29:36 AM
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I haaaate drawing eyes. I leave them till the very last, and even then usually rush them. Baghead
I agree that it doesn't show!
I do eyes last as well. Not only do eyes tend to distract me once they're fully painted, but I also like the effect to see how the picture is suddenly filled with more life once the eyes are there.
Apart from that, Suntoucher is progressing well! So far I am happy with him. Need to finish his portrait then ink all three pictures and color them. The crazy drawing devil inside of me is trying desperately to find a way to squeeze in wing or Windkin...
Edit: I do like my "pinup" of Suntoucher, but man does he look Egyptian...
Post by: Maggie on December 10, 2011, 01:38:57 PM
I just finished Spine, now on to Leetah and Krill.
Post by: Tevokkia on December 10, 2011, 03:47:31 PM
... in calendar-related news, I had a little computer crash a couple days ago and lost the coloring on the pieces I was doing for the grids ... I'm going to have to just send the lines in, I think, as I'm leaving for vacation tomorrow evening and have too much to do between now and then to not only start over, but finish completely.
Post by: jaRf on December 13, 2011, 01:40:44 PM
(Like signature and license missing ;-) )
Post by: Foxeye on December 16, 2011, 02:54:14 PM
And I'm sure she'd appreciate any positive energies you wanted to send her way through the ether. :)
Post by: Treefox on December 16, 2011, 03:20:28 PM
Post by: jaRf on December 17, 2011, 01:40:56 AM
*etherizes positive energies and send through the network*
Calendar 2013/14 aren't such a hurry, are they?
Yeah, I can imagine. Here I am having a horrible end-of-year-stress with lots of things/people to take care of. That sucks energy a lot and as every year there will suddenly be Christmas with no preparation time. No cookies made, no pre-Christmas time enjoyed, all the thing you had as a child.
The best thing might be still to come, a talk with the chieftess. She's somewhat overloading people with tasks and then she complains how slow certain things happen.
On calendar things: If there is no complaint about Skimback he's finished and I am focused now (when I have the time, but atm. I even work partially on weekends) on Rayek. Some parts I already like, but there is still a lot to do. I hope to have some more free time between Christmas and new year.
Post by: Mirror on December 19, 2011, 10:47:54 AM
As for me, my computer decided to have a major crash this weekend.
Not the one I'm using now, but the one I've used for drawing the last couple of months. It's been behaving weirdly for some time, but thickheaded as I am, I didn't even make backup-copies. As a result, I might have lost the entries of Willowgreen and Leetah.
:sad :'( :faint
Post by: Tevokkia on December 19, 2011, 12:33:40 PM
My computer had a mini-crash about two weeks ago and I lost a good chunk of the coloring on my Willowgreen, but I had backed up recently (which is a new thing for me, after my husband lost his entire hard drive last month).
Post by: jaRf on December 19, 2011, 11:41:32 PM
As for me, my computer decided to have a major crash this weekend.
Hmm, remote diagnosis isn't something I like to do but do can you tell what happened? Which OS is it, does the HD still spin up? I mean, there is often a nice solution by using a Linux LiveCD. mounting drives, copying your important data to a USB media and there you are. Maybe repair the faulty OS later.
If the filesystem is hurt, well, still chances to rescue things, but if the HDD itself is broken then it's time to find a recent backup. If it is some other hardware error, no worries that can be exchanged or repaired. The HDD is the most important part of your computer.
Post by: Mirror on December 20, 2011, 01:40:22 AM
Hmm, remote diagnosis isn't something I like to do but do can you tell what happened? Which OS is it, does the HD still spin up? I mean, there is often a nice solution by using a Linux LiveCD. mounting drives, copying your important data to a USB media and there you are. Maybe repair the faulty OS later.
If the filesystem is hurt, well, still chances to rescue things, but if the HDD itself is broken then it's time to find a recent backup. If it is some other hardware error, no worries that can be exchanged or repaired. The HDD is the most important part of your computer.
Thank you so much for your willingness to help, jaRF! This morning, my uncle actually managed to save most of my picture files to a USB key! (Yup, I'm such a noob I had to turn to my soon 70-y.o uncle to save the day ;D ) I have no idea how he managed to do this, since I haven't even been able to switch it on properly for two days.
The computer will be handed in for (possible) repair, and in the meantime I'll be using the computer I'm on now. Crossing my fingers!
Post by: Czarine on December 20, 2011, 10:26:18 PM
As for myself, I was gonna post some bonus art for the calendar, but I had some sudden changes in my schedule (read: boss canceled my day off), so had to drop the idea. :-\ Oh well, gotta draw something nice later when all this real-life-hassle is over.
Post by: Tevokkia on December 21, 2011, 06:21:14 PM
... is it silly of me to stupidly excited to look at my post information and find that I am no longer a zwoot?
Post by: branchscamper on December 21, 2011, 07:11:00 PM
I only need a few more hours on Tyleet and I shall be done. I'm having trouble with colouring and shading the skin because it just doesn't look right to me, but I think that's just my opinion. I've been studying a lot about techniques for this picture and I've been mostly happy with the results.
Happy Holidays to everyone if I don't get on before then =D
Post by: Windrider on December 22, 2011, 04:51:13 PM
But anyway, back to work on the calendar. 2012 is coming together, just a little later than planned (we were shooting for having it for sale by Christmas, but it looks like we'll have to settle for New Years). Foxeye did a lovely layout for the cover and the inside is filling up with wonderful art.
Those of you still working on pinups for 2013 and 2014, try to get them to me by January 1st. I'll be doing a large amount of formatting between Christmas and New Years, but I can save slots as long as I know it is coming. It may be that I can give you even more time for 2014, but check with me first. My spreadsheet with pinup assignments for each week of each year is getting very locked in. I am trying to juggle having both artists and characters spread evenly between all three calendars. It isn't going to work if an artist is really late with all three or four of their entries and they all have to go in 2014!
Bonus/grid art: if you have something in your gallery you think will work, just drop me a PM saying I am free to use it. You can also create a single pose specifically for the calendar grid (should be either a portrait or fairly vertical figure pose). I would especially appreciate artists doing that for characters with little existing fan art.
Post by: silentleaf on December 22, 2011, 05:27:53 PM
Post by: Foxeye on December 22, 2011, 09:29:53 PM
Now we just need a convention so we can all sign each other's artwork pages.
*ponder that*...hah, yeah, my new project for the next 10 years...travel the world, and while I'm doing it, stalk other fan artists so I can get their autographs for my set. ^_^ It's like an artist scavenger hunt.
Post by: Treefox on December 22, 2011, 11:39:08 PM
For me seeing the calendar on January 1st, as usual, would also be great. However, ordering the planners before the new year would have some advantages. Anyway, I am still so much looking forward to this!
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If the printers do good quality work, then these "planners" are going to cherished for a long time.
I hope they will do a good job! I had my compositions printed out and was quite disappointed by the colors. But I have hope that the printer you discovered will do a better job.
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*ponder that*...hah, yeah, my new project for the next 10 years...travel the world, and while I'm doing it, stalk other fan artists so I can get their autographs for my set. ^_^ It's like an artist scavenger hunt.
That would be soooo awesome! I'd love to meet everybody and get their sign on their entries.
As far as I have heard on Facebook, Kitt is actually trying to organize an Elfquest convention. Should that work out I would actually try to come to the USA for that. :D
Post by: Windrider on December 23, 2011, 09:58:27 AM
There will likely be more for the other two years, but right now, this is a call to any artist who isn't busy these next two days. Please search your art or create a new sketch for:
Longfin
Sust
Spine
Sandsparkle
Murrel
Greywolf
Jink
Lehrigen
Post by: Startear on December 23, 2011, 10:17:47 AM
Post by: jaRf on December 23, 2011, 03:17:34 PM
Ah, death is an unwelcome guest in most cases. I've seen it often enough, in close family also, so I know how that feels. *channels energy again over the net*
That's why all of you others: Spend the time with the ones you love while there is still opportunity. Have good times together whenever possible. I was thanking myself up and down the road that I did so with my father before he died. You can't turn back a wheel of time once it is too late. Love/Lifemates, relatives, friends and pets.
Well. On my side I returned a few hours ago from work. Yes, Friday before xmas and I worked til late night. But I had to get some things done and finally I was not having to care for anyone or anybody but myself and my own work. Sometimes, in these weekends alone at work or in the evenings I get more stuff done than the whole week before.
So at least now I am free of that work burden (besides, erm gift wrapping and buying some food for the holidays before shops close) and I can get back to work here. *sigh* Every year the same, suddenly there is christmas and new year and I drop out of work too suddenly.
I rarely become ill in December. Well. Not before holidays. Back at school I always became ill when holidays started. :(
Anyway. I dearly hope to get Rayek done til 1st of January, 2012.
I mean, I am really shocked whenever I look at the file dates. I started in August or something. Then some file from Sep, Oct, then early Nov and besides last weekend no change til now. Okay, I finished Skimback meanwhile, but still, it shocks me. So enough writing, going to bed and tomorrow going on with his noble- & greatness. ;-)
Besides all that I wish everyone a good and peaceful christmas time, regardless if you celebrate a symbolic date of a birthday or not. It's somewhat strange when you see Muslim or Hindu colleagues at work on holidays like nothing happened.
And remember, spend good time with the ones close to your heart, don't make christ's birthday a (more than necessary) stressful event.
@Windrider:
I'll send you the Skimback 2500 x 2500 PNG tomorrow.
Post by: Jeedai on December 25, 2011, 08:10:49 PM
Post by: Tevokkia on December 26, 2011, 09:34:59 PM
Post by: Tevokkia on December 27, 2011, 04:36:12 PM
Post by: Foxeye on December 27, 2011, 05:20:55 PM
FYI, Windrider has given me almost 40 of the 53 images so far. We're getting closer every couple of hours!
Post by: Treefox on December 29, 2011, 03:48:41 AM
Post by: Mirror on December 29, 2011, 09:59:30 AM
I am quite curious to also see how much the shipping cost to Europe will be. They do ship outside the U.S, don't they?
Oh, please say that they do.... :-\
Post by: jaRf on December 29, 2011, 11:03:30 AM
http://connect.lulu.com/t5/Shipping/Shipping-Times-and-Options/ta-p/33707 (http://connect.lulu.com/t5/Shipping/Shipping-Times-and-Options/ta-p/33707)
they are also available partially in different languages e.g.
http://connect.lulu.com/t5/Verbinden/ct-p/de_DE (http://connect.lulu.com/t5/Verbinden/ct-p/de_DE)
Would need to find out the payment options but maybe int. money order, a local bank account or otherwise credit card or a Paypal solution maybe.
It needs more progress on calendar artwork here. At least action pose is coming into shape. I also noticed that we're short on Rayek, just one finished yet.
Post by: Windrider on December 29, 2011, 05:34:38 PM
The count-down is on for the 2012 Fan Art Calendar to go live! Should be later tonight if Foxy's internet connection holds up through the Maine snow and cold!
Post by: Mirror on December 29, 2011, 05:44:57 PM
This is Christmas all over again!
Post by: Foxeye on December 29, 2011, 06:09:17 PM
Windrider, the mic is yours. :jam :beer
:faint
Post by: Mirror on December 29, 2011, 06:14:45 PM
This. Is. Epic.
Will be back with more intelligent comments after enjoying art.
Edit:
Is it just me, or has everybody outdone themselves for this calendar? I'm constantly going "wow"!
:hail to Foxeye and Windrider for putting it all together!
Post by: Windrider on December 29, 2011, 06:21:09 PM
http://www.elfquestfanart.com/index.php?action=fanartcalendar;week=1;year=2012 (http://www.elfquestfanart.com/index.php?action=fanartcalendar;week=1;year=2012)
Oh, and remember there are still two more years to come!
Post by: silentleaf on December 29, 2011, 07:23:10 PM
Post by: windbourne on December 29, 2011, 07:36:00 PM
YAY! Thank you so much for your hard work, everyone. <3
Post by: Treefox on December 29, 2011, 09:21:46 PM
Wooooooooooooooooooooow! Thank you everyone!
This is mind blowing, so much more than I could have imagined. I think I have tears of joy in my eyes!
Thank you also Windrider and Foxeye for making this possible!
Edit: I am still not able to think clearly, still dazzled, but I'd like to add how wonderful the calendar pages are put together! Very clever! Some made me go "wow" others had me laughing. Must have been soooo much work to do this!
Edit 2: Haha, I will so not work, but comment all day long! :lol
Edit 3: I hope that this will get some spotlight and attention on the EQ page and on Facebook. I think this shows just as much effort and love as the fan trailer. May not have cost so much money, but time and effort! I really hope that Wendy and Richard see how much love fans still have for Elfquest
Post by: Frozenleaves on December 30, 2011, 12:13:03 AM
Thank you so much to all the artists. Now I need a good printer ;D
Post by: jaRf on December 30, 2011, 12:23:38 AM
Good idea with the bonus art on the sides. Must keep myself from watching elves and work. God, this is exciting. My screen is bursting with all the creative energies set free in this calendar. :)
Post by: Finnguala on December 30, 2011, 02:26:55 AM
Post by: Treefox on December 30, 2011, 02:34:38 AM
The calendar keeps dazzling me and keeps me away from work in a good way.
Post by: Wildfire on December 30, 2011, 02:43:08 AM
Post by: Afke on December 30, 2011, 04:45:28 AM
Post by: Treefox on December 30, 2011, 05:38:34 AM
Post by: Foxeye on December 30, 2011, 05:44:04 AM
Just got this reply to the announcement from Richard, which I wanted to share with you all:
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Looks fantastic! Kudos to all!
I will go ahead and post the link to the Elfquest Facebook page; a lot of people will enjoy seeing this.
Post by: nilla on December 30, 2011, 05:47:06 AM
Post by: Treefox on December 30, 2011, 06:51:05 AM
Post by: Eregyrn on December 30, 2011, 08:21:01 AM
Thank-you to Windrider and Foxeye for all your hard work so far... and still to come with the next two calendars!
Post by: Windrider on December 30, 2011, 08:32:43 AM
I want to give a special thanks to those who stuck with me these last frantic days to get last minute grid art done - and especially to Foxeye, who had to organize this colossus on the site once I got it to her - and continues to work to get it ready for publishing at Lulu.
Those who created new art especially for the grids in the 2012 calendar, please post them in the gallery now so you can get comments, too!
Post by: Tevokkia on December 30, 2011, 08:42:42 AM
I've only gotten a chance to glance at each entry on the formatted calendar for now, but I'm hoping to have time to hit the gallery and comment on the pieces over the next few days.
Post by: Jeedai on December 30, 2011, 02:19:36 PM
Post by: Maggie on December 30, 2011, 07:03:10 PM
By the way, everyone did such lovely artwork for 2012, I can't wait to see what's next.
Post by: branchscamper on December 30, 2011, 10:37:18 PM
Thank you to all the artist for taking so much of their time to put their heart and soul into these pictures so we can all enjoy them and be caught up in the artwork ^_^
And thank you to Windrider and Foxeye for all their effort to put these calendars together. It must be a lot of work, but you have to be enjoying seeing all this wonderful art :D
I also want to thank Windrider for all her encouraging emails as I sent her my WIP's. It helped me get through as I attempted new forms of colouring.
And now I am off to oogle at the gallery and leave comments =D
Edit - One thing I noticed that no matter how many entries there are I don't really see a repeated pose. That is pretty amazing and shows the creativeness everyone had. Amazing! :o
Post by: Kitt on December 31, 2011, 06:28:28 AM
The calendar looks wonderful! Really fantastic work, everyone!
Post by: LaMara on December 31, 2011, 10:01:56 AM
I wanted to thank Windrider and Foxeye again for their support and kind words! With all the work on the calendar, and entries, and real life, it's amazing how they've found time and kind words for, I'm guessing, everyone who needed it!
Can't wait to see more, too! So much love, creative and positive feelings this calendar is giving!
Post by: Windrider on December 31, 2011, 01:36:45 PM
Oh yeah, if you made pinups for more than one year, only post your 2012 ones!
Post by: Larialoyla on January 01, 2012, 01:26:57 AM
Post by: Czarine on January 01, 2012, 07:40:36 AM
It's nice to be back home to find such a huge amount of pretty art! There can't be a better way to start this year!
Post by: silentleaf on January 04, 2012, 11:08:15 AM
Post by: Joyrider1978 on January 04, 2012, 12:33:37 PM
THANK YOU a bagillion times over to Windrider & Foxeye for their constant and unfailing work and support and all-around awesomeness. Y'all rock somethin' fierce!
...Good lord I have got to buckle down on my other pieces now. This is exactly the motivation I need! Who needs real life when you've got such fantastic fan art goodness? :D
Post by: Windrider on January 06, 2012, 05:23:14 PM
Since I've mostly decided which art is in 2013, I spent some time pairing it up with bonus art, so I now have a list of characters for those artist who only have time to contribute a single pose. I'd like to mention that I've done something a bit different with this list: I think it would be more interesting to include some of the untaken or even unnamed characters opposite better known characters who they relate to. So I have given some choices instead of just the main character.
Edit: Looks like I've got all the bonus art assigned to artists and we are almost good to go for 2013. Stay posted for more bonus art needed for 2014 and I start pulling that one together.
Looking ahead, ones I know I will need for 2014 (not a complete list yet):
Adar
Foxfur
Nightfall
Zhantee
Rillfisher
Post by: Windschatten on January 07, 2012, 04:41:06 AM
Post by: Windrider on January 07, 2012, 09:50:12 AM
The second set you've got two weeks, maybe a little more. I am expecting 2014 to be out at the end of January - depending of course on whether the artists doing pinups get theirs done on time! 2013, we are almost there, but about a third still missing for 2014.
Post by: Windschatten on January 07, 2012, 11:14:39 AM
Post by: Wildfire on January 09, 2012, 12:51:42 PM
EDIT: Make that tomorrow xD
Post by: Foxeye on January 09, 2012, 01:07:53 PM
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Its looking like the 2012 calendar will be up for sale in a little bit (as soon as we get Richard's look-over first),
While waiting for Richard's reply I ordered a "proof" copy for myself. I'll let everyone know when I've gotten that proof, and if I'm happy with it. There's a lot of margin for error with Lulu, since they don't hold your hand and this is my first time preparing a document for publication, so I'll be biting my fingernails anxiously until I see how it turned out.
Post by: Finnguala on January 10, 2012, 09:10:12 AM
Post by: Windrider on January 10, 2012, 09:58:00 AM
Edited to add: Anyone who thinks they can get a full pinup done in three weeks, please PM me! There are characters in need of an artist and still holes where we need pinups in 2014!
Post by: Czarine on January 11, 2012, 03:40:53 AM
Post by: Startear on January 11, 2012, 05:35:36 AM
Post by: Mirror on January 11, 2012, 08:48:00 AM
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I'm crazy. A part of me REALLY want to draw a pin up of The Bone Woman...
Oh High Ones, DO IT! :D
Post by: nilla on January 11, 2012, 12:17:32 PM
I'm crazy. A part of me REALLY want to draw a pin up of The Bone Woman...Oh gods, why did I mentally start scribbling a sketch of her when I read your comment... :wtf
Post by: Tevokkia on January 11, 2012, 04:15:49 PM
Honestly, I hadn't looked at the BoTC comics for a long time (I tend to re-read the short story anthologies instead), and had I remembered how much I disliked the costume design of his one and only appearance, I may not have claimed him knowing that I would have trouble with the clothed pose. :doh It's the pants. I can't get his legs to look right in those pants no matter what I have them doing. *cries*
Hopefully I'll be able to settle on something by the end of tomorrow so I can get him done and move on to something else.
EDIT: Apparently all I needed was some public venting so that my brain could concoct something usable. Working on lines now.
Post by: Tevokkia on January 11, 2012, 05:28:39 PM
Oh gods, why did I mentally start scribbling a sketch of her when I read your comment... :wtfUgh, when I read YOUR comment, mine did the same.
.... we should have a Bone Woman pinup challenge after this is over. XD
Post by: nilla on January 11, 2012, 06:11:09 PM
I'm so sorry. :rofl
I do think it's going to stick on the mental plane.
*Actually goes looking a picture of Bone Woman*
Because I doubt I can actually draw some that ugly.
*Twitches violently, and laughs nervously*
Um...Why did my hand just find a blank piece of paper and my pencils?
HELP!
Post by: Afke on January 12, 2012, 01:20:31 AM
Because I doubt I can actually draw some that ugly.That's why it would be a challenge. ;)
Basically what makes Bonewoman ugly is her nasty character. I've had so many comments from people saying I make trolls look pretty and lovable, but that's mainly because I make them... smile.
Post by: Larialoyla on January 12, 2012, 01:38:25 AM
Post by: Startear on January 12, 2012, 02:43:56 AM
Sexy pose would be quite challenging though.
BTW, was she exiled after what The Thief did?
Post by: nilla on January 12, 2012, 06:48:46 AM
That's why it would be a challenge. ;)Yah, I know. That's why I'm actually going to do it. ;D
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BTW, was she exiled after what The Thief did?Hmmm, if she still had any high standing in the tribe, she might have been allowed to stay. Tho, if Olbar isn't worried about her 'powers/ranting' anymore he'd likely kick her out for her actions.
Found this on mosquitonet:
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It is uncertain what happend to the Bone Woman, but it is assumed she was either killed or banished as Nonna took over her position.
Personally, I think she was either killed or banished.
Post by: Treefox on January 12, 2012, 10:26:25 AM
However, I also think that she was at least banished. She was nowhere to be seen, when Cutter re-visited Nonna and Adar. Not that this must mean anything...
Post by: Startear on January 12, 2012, 12:56:36 PM
Another thing, Thief, was he like the widowed woman in "A Man Called Horse" if anyone of you have seen that movie? A scavenger whom grows weaker and weaker, to eventually die in the harsh winter, or forced to flee in exile?
Hm.
I know what will be what I'll write at Monday. :D
Post by: Tevokkia on January 12, 2012, 07:42:03 PM
Post by: nilla on January 13, 2012, 03:29:33 AM
Post by: silentleaf on January 15, 2012, 07:07:25 PM
Post by: Foxeye on January 21, 2012, 12:22:01 PM
http://www.elfquestfanart.com/index.php?action=fanartcalendar;week=1;year=2013 (http://www.elfquestfanart.com/index.php?action=fanartcalendar;week=1;year=2013)
:woohoo
I should have the physical version ready by the end of the weekend.
Post by: Treefox on January 21, 2012, 12:26:21 PM
I have to go and swoon now.
Post by: branchscamper on January 21, 2012, 01:57:41 PM
Sorry for all the caps. Can you tell I'm excited? ;D
Post by: Startear on January 21, 2012, 02:28:14 PM
Post by: Treefox on January 21, 2012, 02:54:47 PM
Post by: Maggie on January 21, 2012, 03:15:07 PM
Post by: Startear on January 21, 2012, 03:40:02 PM
Post by: Windrider on January 21, 2012, 04:31:05 PM
I updated the character list in the second post on this thread. Everyone is now color coded as to what year they are in. For 2014 we have maroon-brown for those that are done and red for those who are still in progress. Yellow means that character still needs an artist, if that artist can get a pinup or bonus art done in two weeks!
So, everything for 2014 needs to be to me by Feb 4 or 5th. I can't believe the sheer amount of creativity displayed in this project, but this is the home stretch now! So far we are only half way there to a 2014 calendar!
Post by: Maggie on January 21, 2012, 06:40:10 PM
I think I need to take a break from formatting these calendars, because I am starting to see pinups in my dreams! :o
I updated the character list in the second post on this thread. Everyone is now color coded as to what year they are in. For 2014 we have maroon-brown for those that are done and red for those who are still in progress. Yellow means that character still needs an artist, if that artist can get a pinup or bonus art done in two weeks!
So, everything for 2014 needs to be to me by Feb 4 or 5th. I can't believe the sheer amount of creativity displayed in this project, but this is the home stretch now! So far we are only half way there to a 2014 calendar!
I could do some bonus art for Redlance and another character if you'd like.
Post by: Tevokkia on January 21, 2012, 07:16:04 PM
... on that note, Zarhan is almost done. I'll have him ready around Tuesday.
Post by: Frozenleaves on January 22, 2012, 02:23:50 AM
Post by: Rosalie on January 22, 2012, 07:05:09 AM
The calendars look awesome btw! So many different stiles, it's really fun to look at.
Post by: Mirror on January 22, 2012, 09:51:34 AM
Post by: Treefox on January 22, 2012, 11:41:56 AM
Post by: Maggie on January 22, 2012, 02:34:41 PM
I also really like to request Maggi and Mist-Eyes and all the others to post their grid art/bonus art so we can see it in full glory!
Your wish is my command...Minyah and Selah have been posted.
Post by: Windrider on January 22, 2012, 03:27:14 PM
I've pretty much tapped out the galleries here for art easily converted into art for the calendar grid, so there are more characters needing love this time. Just remember to sign up for bonus art too, instead of just doing it and then sending it to me. For the first two calendars I could "shelve" art for a following year, but this will be the last year so I don't want artists excluded because they did a duplicate.
Post by: Foxeye on January 22, 2012, 06:12:03 PM
Post by: Treefox on January 22, 2012, 11:35:06 PM
Post by: branchscamper on January 23, 2012, 02:45:40 AM
Also I am loving the art I'm seeing and it's also making me learn new characters and storylines as I have to google some of their names. I need to catch up some more!
Also thank you to Treefox and Maggie for their dedication of leaving awesome comments for everyone :)
Post by: Treefox on January 23, 2012, 03:01:46 AM
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Also thank you to Treefox and Maggie for their dedication of leaving awesome comments for everyone
Hey, that's what I live for! But really, all that incredible artwork, love and time that was put into this awesome project makes it easy for me to comment. Seeing these pictures, I just need to say what's on my mind when viewing them.
Post by: Startear on January 24, 2012, 05:18:19 AM
Post by: Maggie on January 24, 2012, 05:45:44 AM
Maggie, thank you for posting the wonderful grid art! However, I cannot comment on it. Is that on purpose?
Haha, no. How do I change that? I must have done something.
Post by: Maggie on January 24, 2012, 05:47:18 AM
Also thank you to Treefox and Maggie for their dedication of leaving awesome comments for everyone :)
Hm, I don't know how awesome my comments are...hehe. I'm not the best at it but I like to say something at least, just so you all know how proud I am of the work you've done.
Post by: Firestorm on January 24, 2012, 05:53:11 AM
I just wanted to drop a quick line before I trudge off to work. I know I do not post much and what is on the pages has been with the assistance of the website managers. I’m a lot behind the time with technology, as you can tell in my art it’s old school pen, paper, and colored pencil.
However, I saw the lovely comments left for my artwork and would like to say thank you, again it would not be possible if not for the genius of Windrider and Foxeye would took the helm and arranged the artwork proper for the calendar.
I also want to give kudos to all the artist that participated, I enjoyed it immensely, going through the different styles and interpretations. All involved did a wonderful job! :D
Post by: Foxeye on January 24, 2012, 08:35:06 AM
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Haha, no. How do I change that? I must have done something.
Maggie, check the profile of the album that contains the bonus art (drop down list in the first half of the album settings page). If it is set to anything other than Default Profile, set it back to Default.
Post by: branchscamper on January 24, 2012, 12:32:31 PM
And I just thought about it, but I may have an old piece I did of Haken because I was doing a large High One group drawing that never got completed XD Let me check!
Post by: jaRf on January 24, 2012, 12:38:26 PM
I’m a lot behind the time with technology, as you can tell in my art it’s old school pen, paper, and colored pencil.
Nah, where's the problem? As long as you feel comfortable with your tools of trade.
A pencil might just feel more natural and more handy to you than messing around with tablet/pen and mouse.
You just need scanner and email afterwards.
I wish I had found the time to comment to all the wonderful art here. But work is nasty. So to my "relief" I am sick now and can't go to work. That means I have some spare time but I should put most of it into finishing Rayek. (Which is quite good in progress besides the portrait which I am about to start.)
Post by: silentleaf on January 24, 2012, 09:48:18 PM
Post by: Amberfox on January 25, 2012, 01:16:33 AM
Post by: Wildfire on January 25, 2012, 02:29:26 AM
How many full pin-ups is needed now?
Post by: Amberfox on January 25, 2012, 03:43:31 AM
Post by: Treefox on January 25, 2012, 08:16:26 AM
Post by: branchscamper on January 25, 2012, 08:56:31 AM
And I totally forgot to reply to Firestorm XD Don't worry what you use to create your art (especially when it turns out looking like yours does!). Art isn't about how technologically advanced you are. Its about the heart and soul you put into it :)
Post by: Windrider on January 25, 2012, 09:57:26 AM
Yeah, I'm likely to be a little slow updating here for a bit, since the start of the semester is crazy for teachers as well as you who are students.
Post by: Windrider on January 25, 2012, 10:06:37 AM
Post by: Amberfox on January 25, 2012, 02:37:35 PM
Okay, looked over the list and unless I'm being too greedy (or too ambitious), I'll draw Bowki (since no one has signed up for him at all), Haze and Farbright, and Skyfire. Do you need Bowki as a full pinup or just as filler? I assume Farbright and Haze are strictly filler? I'll get started on them; let me know what what you need!
Post by: Wildfire on January 26, 2012, 05:12:21 AM
Post by: jaRf on January 28, 2012, 09:17:12 AM
And speaking of him, the sickness was so severe that it kept me from doing anything useful for 3 days. Sometimes it was like a wrecking ball hitting my skull whenever I even tried to focus on something. Really nasty cold, and I don't even know how I caught it.
I guess I actually never ate so many herb sweets, aetheric oils and stuff in so short time.
But at least yesterday/today I had nice progress. I am even starting to be satisfied with it. So portrait is at humm, maybe >60%, I mean, it's like done but then it's hours of adding details, putting in ideas, changing colours, improving here and there and then thinking that it was yet a little better before (ctrl-Z loves me)...
Everything else besides final composition is >90%.
But then I'll have to fight with that tiny 2500x2500 quadratic space. :p Did I mention that this really limits me?
And finally today we have the first real snow of this winter. Finally! Looking beautiful! Even night is bright now.
Post by: Wildfire on January 28, 2012, 02:52:15 PM
jaRF, about the size. I create each picture individually and then I put them together at the end. That way I can resize the bits and pieces so that they'll fit together ^___^ There's no way I'd be able to draw all three on the same canvas, especially not one that small haha!
Post by: jaRf on January 29, 2012, 05:11:06 AM
Yes, but that's what I do. I start each piece separately, all vector graphics, so scaling/rotating is not a problem later. But, later especially the quadratic format is hard to use for me. I mean I could scale down everything but... *sigh*. It's hard when you have 5+ pieces to fit in one quadratic thing without having it looking too crowded. Probably I'll have to mess around and experiment more with the partition of the quadratic space.
Post by: branchscamper on January 29, 2012, 11:01:00 AM
Post by: jaRf on January 29, 2012, 11:51:01 AM
Later, since I felt insecure with drawing lines etc. on paper in an artistic way (though some of my best things started as a sketch during (boring) classes when I still went to school ;-) ) I used the computer. Sometimes I scanned my ideas but normally I started from scratch.
There I had no real limitations of a paper, just memory, CPU/GPU power and program will limit you. I started each of the 3 main parts for each character separately. The basics I first did in Libreoffice Draw using mouse and a tablet+pen. Then I exported as SVG and went to inkscape and did most stuff there (mouse and tablet+pen again). Sometimes I add very few things in GIMP but most of my stuff is vectors.
Then I add all into one picture and notice that the quadratic space doesn't fit all my ideas. :)
I mean 2500x2500 is one thing, and vectors can be scaled up and down, left and right and rotated and whatsnot without any loss. But still the quadratic area ... I would probably be better of with the A4/A3 paper size I am used to. (for what is A4 see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:A_size_illustration2_with_letter_and_legal.svg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:A_size_illustration2_with_letter_and_legal.svg) )
Anyway, sooner or later I manage to cramp all stuff in and then I export the SVG as PNG and clip if necessary, then I make sure the sides are A x A and then I render down to 2500x2500 (the export can be rather huge sometimes, but you don't have to, I just like to have it large, then apply last things and then render down with an algorithm which preserves most info).
Then I check if I really like it and send it off asking for suggestions. (Also I sent intermediate work, which is only in parts)
This was the first time I really did artwork on the computer (ok, let aside some of my Pen & Paper RPG scribblings and stuff) and also the first time I used a tablet.
Well, I must say the tablet feels much better in a pixel/bitmap painting program, with the vectors it really depends on settings but sometimes I see every little twitch in my hand in the line. But then I was lacking training in programs like GIMP or PS. And I wanted vectors since you can correct them more easily. And you have layers all the time, every vector object is a layer of its own.
Now back to work with drawing. I'm already actually satisfied with the portrait. I'm really surprised about this.
Post by: Amberfox on January 29, 2012, 12:00:33 PM
By the way, does anyone know if Farbright's tail is smooth skinned like a dolphin or scaled like a fish?
Post by: Treefox on January 29, 2012, 12:08:03 PM
About Bowki: it really depends how young he looks, I think!
Post by: Amberfox on January 29, 2012, 12:40:11 PM
Post by: Treefox on January 29, 2012, 12:51:41 PM
But as you said, it's all subjective. If you and the other person think he looks too young, maybe we should better not include him like that.
And yeah, there's so darn little reference material for him... not easy!
Post by: Amberfox on January 29, 2012, 01:32:07 PM
Oops, I see you don't have email listed. Anyway to contact you directly?
Post by: Treefox on January 29, 2012, 01:56:42 PM
Post by: Amberfox on January 29, 2012, 02:38:15 PM
Post by: Startear on January 29, 2012, 02:41:32 PM
I tried a pin up, and had a lot of trouble with him, either he looked like someone else, or that kid tried to seduce me. Adore Bowki, but not on that level.
Post by: Windrider on January 29, 2012, 05:21:03 PM
I've updated the bonus art list with Amberfox drawing Haze and Farbright and maybe Bowki. Wildfire's definitely drawing Haken. Startear, I had to search around, but I did have your bonus art of Minyah - so sorry, it was the first I received when this project started to include bonus art and it never got in the right folder! I'll try to figure out how to include it in this last calendar, okay?
A word on how I put together the composition, for these pinups and any drawing with multiple elements. I NEVER draw the elements separately and then try to resize, rotate, etc to get them to fit. I think of it as a total composition right from the start. Lots of small scribbly thumbnails to get everything working together and in proportion FIRST - no details, just blocked in figures and other elements. Once I've got that stage looking okay, I'll move on to a full size pencil sketch, starting rough and refining it. Once at that stage, occasionally I'll pull a pose out by tracing it and refine it separately, but how it fits in the composition at that point is a done deal.
I do traditional media (watercolor) and have been painting these pinups on a 12 x 12 board, but with the border I left they are about 11 x 11 inches.
Post by: branchscamper on January 29, 2012, 09:13:16 PM
I wish I had been better in the whole composition thing when doing this project. I wasn't sure what exactly to expect so kept it rather simple. I'm used to more of just character drawings than a whole big finished project. But if it's one thing this project has done it's made me look up and learn a lot - from the characters I had no idea about in EQ to reading some of the story lines I had no idea about either to learning more about art and even attempting digital colouring. I think in that alone I am happy I took on this calendar work =D
And with that I sent you an email Windrider that I will happily take on Winnowill grid art. I will be back in my comfort zone of black ink haha
Post by: Startear on January 30, 2012, 10:44:19 AM
Post by: Faerydae on January 31, 2012, 08:53:06 AM
Post by: Wildfire on January 31, 2012, 11:27:11 AM
Post by: Treefox on January 31, 2012, 12:24:31 PM
I just re-discovered how awesome highly-pigmented water colors can be. I am creating a really lush, super-dark blue that's just awesome! Maybe done digitally in a second, but there is something very satisfying about painting by hand.
Still not sure I'll get Sefra done, though...
Post by: Windrider on January 31, 2012, 12:39:22 PM
Mainly because there is no way I can enforce this last deadline. The calendar can't be formatted and published until all the last pinups are in. That is the facts, ma'am. I have no later years to draw from and shuffle around if artists don't get pinups done on time. We'll have enough pinups if everyone gets the ones done that they said, but if they are late I just have to wait for them.
I really do hope everyone comes through. Some of you improved so much as you were working on this project, so the 2014 gallery really has some wonderful stuff in it.
Post by: Treefox on January 31, 2012, 12:49:27 PM
Post by: Amberfox on February 01, 2012, 10:48:25 AM
Thank you for looking over the sketches, Treefox! Anything you'd recommend to make it even better?
Post by: Czarine on February 01, 2012, 10:56:49 AM
Post by: Treefox on February 01, 2012, 11:11:13 AM
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Thank you for looking over the sketches, Treefox! Anything you'd recommend to make it even better?
Maybe I found something! See PM. Don't want to give too much away here. ;)
Post by: Tevokkia on February 04, 2012, 12:39:20 PM
Post by: Treefox on February 04, 2012, 12:40:32 PM
Post by: Windrider on February 05, 2012, 10:05:19 AM
Whew... sorry to be absent from the project this week, everyone. The start of the semester is always so busy - I check my email thinking to take care of calendar business and my inbox is stuffed with 30 emails from students who want to add a class that only has room for 20 and is already full anyway. Budget cuts are the worst. :P
So... back to calendar business. If you've emailed me this week, I haven't forgotten you! I'll try to respond to everyone today or tomorrow. I've got the last calendar formatted, I just need to plop in the art as it comes in and maybe rearrange so the pinup order looks good and varied.
I will be working on this last calendar in ernest starting tomorrow (Monday). So please everyone - if you can't get your art in today, try to get it to me this week at least! There is no back up plan - no calendar until all the art comes in. :-[
Post by: Yavia on February 05, 2012, 10:34:24 AM
This is really a great project and you managed it very well.
Post by: branchscamper on February 08, 2012, 09:31:49 AM
I have the Winnowil grid art done and am inking it, but I have to work out on how to scan it and send it your way as I don't have cable right now and am hitting up wifi areas to access XD Also scanner is packed up still. UGH...
But on a good note Washington is very beautiful and I much prefer it over the desert :lol
Post by: Tevokkia on February 08, 2012, 11:49:42 AM
But on a good note Washington is very beautiful and I much prefer it over the desert :lolWashington is very beautiful- I grew up there and want very much to move back there someday.
Post by: Amberfox on February 08, 2012, 03:14:48 PM
Post by: jaRf on February 12, 2012, 02:12:30 PM
Phew. Finally. :)
Post by: Windrider on February 15, 2012, 09:11:44 PM
Post by: Treefox on February 16, 2012, 02:35:18 AM
Thinking of the site switch end of this month, I also really hope we can get this done this week.
Post by: Tevokkia on February 16, 2012, 05:38:41 AM
Post by: branchscamper on February 16, 2012, 09:56:02 AM
Post by: Tevokkia on February 16, 2012, 04:09:52 PM
Post by: branchscamper on February 17, 2012, 12:41:07 PM
I did send in my art though! I hope everyone can get theirs in as well!
Post by: jaRf on February 20, 2012, 03:13:25 AM
I just sent all the files to Windrider.
It was a long journey, starting at the mid-end summer 2011. It was a lot of work for me, but also a great experience to finally get creative again, to get myself into inkscape and using a tablet from time to time. (Though tablets probably still work better with pixel-painters like GIMP.) Also learning quite some things by looking at tons of art and photos from the net how things do look and how to maybe get this to work in your own picture.
I am happy that I did these to entries and I am also quite satisfied with it, you can expect some humorous elements for Rayek, too. :)
Thanks for convincing me to participate.
I'm excited to see all the other entries soon.
As soon as I have the ok from WR I'll upload the parts of the pictures.
And get well whoever is still sick.
Post by: Maggie on February 25, 2012, 04:53:10 PM
Post by: Treefox on February 26, 2012, 01:58:43 AM
Post by: branchscamper on February 27, 2012, 09:13:27 AM
Post by: Foxeye on February 27, 2012, 10:22:31 PM
http://www.elfquestfanart.com/index.php?action=fanartcalendar;week=0;year=2014;type=planner (http://www.elfquestfanart.com/index.php?action=fanartcalendar;week=0;year=2014;type=planner)
Windrider is still waiting on some submissions that she knows to be pending, and is formatting some others, but she felt we may as well put this live and have a few days to enjoy what is her so far, since the site will be transitioning soon and things may be a tad rocky when that happens!
Post by: jaRf on February 27, 2012, 10:35:00 PM
Post by: Treefox on February 27, 2012, 10:50:27 PM
But still wooooow! Woooow!
Post by: nilla on February 28, 2012, 07:29:22 AM
Post by: Treefox on February 28, 2012, 07:45:04 AM
Post by: Startear on February 28, 2012, 11:13:44 AM
Post by: Maggie on February 28, 2012, 05:31:28 PM
Post by: Windrider on February 29, 2012, 09:50:21 AM
I am not yet done tweaking the calendar. I am waiting on the last pinups to come in, because almost all of them are characters who don't appear anywhere else in the three calendars. If those really don't come in at all, some of the so-far unused pinups in the gallery will be made full pinups, some are already in the line-up as grid art but on a page that is still missing its pinup.
Like Foxeye said, we just wanted everyone to have a chance to enjoy what we've got so far before the handoff tonight. There are still more calendar pages coming and there may even be some tweaks to what has already been posted.
Post by: branchscamper on March 02, 2012, 11:30:47 PM
Post by: jaRf on April 08, 2012, 07:26:57 AM
Post by: Windrider on April 11, 2012, 05:59:37 PM
I will also officially announce it here (though I expect most people know already): After six years it is time for me to pass the calendar torch to the next group of dedicated organizers and formatters. I'll be around to give advice and be calendar judge (if the organizers want to have a judging panel), but I will follow my long-time collaborator and co-conspirator, Foxeye, into retirement from actually running things.
A big thank you to all the artist who throughout the years have made the calendars such a fun and successful project. In the time I've been involved, I've seen many of you grow from hesitant noobs to confident and capable artists. I have always enjoyed seeing what you came up with and how much you grow every year and still look forward to seeing what you do in the future.
Post by: Maggie on April 11, 2012, 06:07:59 PM
Post by: Foxeye on April 11, 2012, 10:19:24 PM
Windrider, before I move outta state, I'm definitely going to get down to your neck o' the woods so we can share some fruity drinks with umbrellas. ^_^
Post by: Treefox on April 12, 2012, 03:54:59 AM
I still looks at the calendars every day and just love to see all the wonderful pictures, ideas and individual designs that went into them.